Stunning Levin Show in 2013: How Well Do You Remember Amnesty


It is time for Republican candidates to get the message. Americans want the borders secured and they want it before amnesty. They count on Americans forgetting how strongly they supported amnesty over the years. They pretend amnesty is not amnesty and expect Americans to buy into that meme.

The establishment is not listening. They want Conservatives to vote for them based on promises, not reality, and then they wonder why Trump is doing so well in the polls.

On June 14, 2013, Mark Levin interviewed Heather MacDonald, a Manhattan Institute scholar, a John M. Olin fellow, and a Contributing Editor to City Journal. She is a journalist and a political commentator who advocates for secular conservatism.

Heather MacDonald

Her perspective is strictly objective.

What was said during the interview couldn’t be any more current.

Before the interview and on the video below, Mark Levin reviewed the statistics which prove unequivocally that Hispanics have no interest in voting Republican. After each amnesty since Reagan, there has been no improvement. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio can promise them full amnesty with citizenship before securing the border in Spanish all they want but they won’t get them to vote Republican.

Senator Marco Rubio is interviewed by National Journal's Major Garrett during the Washington Ideas forum, at The Newseum in Washington

That is a fact the Democrats understand but Republicans don’t.

Mark Levin played a clip from Jeb Bush from 2013 when he spoke before The Faith and Freedom Coalition. In the clip Bush repeated all the soundbites on why the amnesty bill is good for America.

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush Keynote

Bush said he wants to fix the immigration system and that the immigration bill is a Conservative idea. We must do it, he declared because we need the young people who will work hard, will learn English and who will play by our rules.

Heather MacDonald was asked to respond and said, they come here “by not playing by our rules and this amnesty bill allows illegals with criminal records, endless arrests, and two misdemeanor convictions.”

She asked rhetorically if this is “Rove’s strong proof of moral character?”

She continued. “We already have discredited enforcement.” At the back of every deportation hearing are protestors with signs that say no more deportation. Under this bill, “deportation is not going to happen.”

MacDonald addressed the claim that the people here illegally will learn English though nothing in the bill “requires actual acquisition of English.” An attempt to enroll is all that is required. We will have another 30 million people who have failed to adopt our language.

She brought up the fact that Rubio told a Spanish-speaking audience legalization comes first while he is telling English-speaking audiences the opposite. This “a shocking betrayal.”

MacDonald is referring to comments Senator Rubio made in Spanish in 2013.

Senator Rubio (R-FL) gave a Spanish-language interview to the Univision network Sunday, June 9 2013 in which he said the following: “Let’s be clear.  Nobody is talking about preventing the legalization.  The legalization is going to happen.  That means the following will happen: First comes the legalization.  Then come the measures to secure the border.  And then comes the process of permanent residence.”

Senators Sessions and Grassley at the time offered amendment after amendment that would require closing the border and they were shot down by Republicans as well as Democrats.

Jeb Bush kept and still keeps insisting that foreign workers are better than American workers.

MacDonald explained that there is no difference between immigrants and American citizens in general. Bush is conflating low skilled and high skilled workers. There is a culture bifurcation among South American immigrants and those from Mexico and Central America.

She said that she went to a Democratic Latino pollster and asked him to give her the best people in the Latin community to interview – the ones who were the best example. They were all Colombian, Ecuadorian, and Cuban. This immigration bill completely “ignores differences among Latino groups.”

Calling all these different people Latino is only done in this country and it’s a Democratic invention.

MacDonald said they are not all Sergei Mikhaylovich Brin, photo below, the brilliant computer innovator. He came here with a high level of education.

Heather MacDonald

Jeb Bush said he wanted to bring in high skilled workers in his book but he is promoting chain migration instead which brings an even lower skilled and a more dependent population.

The pro-illegal immigrationists describe immigrants as virtuous, noble, entrepreneurs and put down the natives as inferior to immigrants, especially inferior to illegal immigrants. Illegals are supposed to be nurtured – they are so much better.

Who leads in poverty in the US?

Hispanics have twice as high a poverty rate with second and third generation receiving much higher welfare. They are working but their skill level is too low. We don’t have engineers sneaking across the border. It is the poor and uneducated escaping the cronyism in their own country.

The leftists are ruining another entire race of people.

It is very unusual that among the Hispanic immigrants, their poverty rate goes up in the second and third generations. They are assimilating to the underclass.

We have those who claim illegal immigrants will pay for the entitlements such as healthcare.

They will not earn enough to pay for entitlements. More than half are now eligible for the earned income tax credit. The idea that the poor and uneducated will pay is a flawed one.

Paul Ryan claimed the bill was not amnesty because it did not wipe the slate clean. Amnesty makes them legal instantly. They were illegal, now they’re legal – that is a pardon – it’s amnesty. Amnesty is not defined as only occurring when the slate is wiped clean, it is legalization which they would have had instantly.

The monetary requirements were minimal and there were innumerable exemptions.

MacDonald said she’d like to invite Bush to come to the Peco Rivera school in LA where the single mothers go to speak with gang counselors on how to keep their teen males from being swallowed up by the gangs.

Jeb Bush claimed the families coming in were intact families.

Levin asked MacDonald what the single parent household of these “intact families” actually is. MacDonald said that 53% of births are from single family homes. In 1965, when Blacks reached 23% it was described as a major social catastrophe and it was.

Over-all, out-of-wedlock births in Hispanic households are at 43%, White households are 23%, Blacks are 73% and Asians are 16%.

Another common lie is that illegal immigrants must be brought out of the shadows. They are out of the shadows!

We didn’t drag people across the border and we are not responsible. Because of an absurd footnote in the law, their children are citizens and if families are split, it is because of their conscious decision to take that chance.

The rule of law is not to blame. The illegals themselves are to blame and Republicans are participating in this scheme.

If we abandon our rule of law, we no longer have a country.

Mark Levin and Heather MacDonald on Illegal… by mauriedee–