Neurosurgeon Tells Levin That The Over 70 Crowd Won’t Get Neurosurgery


Update 12/31:  Obamacare is about the government taking control over our healthcare decisions and that is a fact.

Remember when Obama’s friend, Bill Gates, the monopolist, said he didn’t want to see three teachers out of work because some senior wants three more months of life? Why don’t we simply say GM getting bailed out cost thousands of teachers jobs or killed thousands of seniors?

Obamacare is not an American view of life. It’s a UN view of life and death and it is the one that Obamacare will implement. Obamacare will change who we are as Americans and how we view life, particularly end of life.

Original Story: I referred to the following call placed to Mark Levin by a neurosurgeon named Jeff in another article, but have been trying to confirm it, which I have not yet been able to do. Mark Levin’s staff did verify that the caller was who he said he was – a neurosurgeon.

I do believe the caller and his information could be legitimate because we have already seen signs of it. Remember when Obama said that sometimes the elderly Aunt just needs to take a pill instead of extending her life?

Do remember Rahm Emanuel’s physician brother and Obamacare advisor, Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, who said in a speech that American citizens over ‘a certain age’ should simply be ‘comforted’ by telling them that they’ve lived a good life already. He also wrote in a recent Lancet article, Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years. Treating 65-yearolds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not. He does say that waste and fraud must be eliminated before this type of rationing takes place, but we know that never happens.

How far is Obamacare willing to go? Will we find out after it’s fully enacted? We mustn’t wait to pass the bill to find out what is in it as Pelosi would have us do. We need to obliterate the monster known as Obamacare before the government has full control over our health. If the government is completely in charge of our health, there are no limits to what they can do to save money.

People over 70 will probably not get neurosurgery if they need it under Obamacare, according to the caller named Jeff. If a patient, which the government refers to as “units,” needs neurosurgical care, an ethics panel (aka death panel or euthanasia panel) of nonphysicians must be convened and in most cases, surgery for those over 70 will not be recommended. By that time, the patient, I mean unit, will likely be dead anyway. Neurosurgery for the over 70 is often done under emergency conditions.

Here is the transcript –

Jeff: I heard you talk earlier about the government not knowing how to make pencils and you talked about brain surgeons. And I happen to be a brain surgeon, so I found your topic quite interesting.

I just returned from Washington, DC, where we were reading over what the Obama health care plan would be for advanced neurosurgery for patients over 70, which we all found quite disturbing. As our population gets older, the majority of our patients are getting over 70. They’ll require stroke therapy, aneurysm therapy, and basically what the document stated is that if you’re over 70 and you come into an emergency room… if you’re on government-supported health care, you’ll get “comfort care”.

ML: Wait a minute… what’s the source for this?

Jeff: This is Obama’s new health care plan for advanced neurosurgical care.

ML: And who issued this? HHS?

Jeff: Yes. And basically they don’t call them patients, they call them units. And instead of, they call it “ethics panels” or “ethics committees”, would get together and meet and decide where the money would go for hospitals, and basically for patients over 70 years of age, that advanced neurosurgical care was not generally indicated.

ML: So it’s generally going to be denied?

Jeff: Yes, absolutely… If someone comes in at 70 years of age with a bleed in their brain, I can promise you I’m not going to get a bunch of administrators together on an ethics panel at 2 in the morning to decide that I’m OK to do surgery.

ML: Is this published somewhere where the general public could get a hold of it?

Jeff: Not yet.

ML: So this was just discussed with your community of neurosurgeons?

Jeff: Yes, the AANS [Ed: the American Association of Neurological Surgeons] and the Congress of Neurosurgeons, because everybody knows that cuts are coming in Medicare and medical reimbursement. And we’re the most expensive out of all the fields in medicine. And we’re the smallest field. But at two, three, four in the morning, we’re the ones in the operating room. And we have to wait for an ethics panel to convene, which are not made of physicians — they’re made of administrators. To decide whether a patient should receive our care.

ML: So Sarah Palin was right. We’re going to have these “death panels”, aren’t we?

Jeff: Oh, absolutely. I’m German by heritage, and I’ve read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and — basically, they don’t call them patients, they call them units. And if you’re a unit above a certain age, you get comfort care instead of advanced neurosurgical intervention.

ML: You went to a seminar in Washington, DC?

Jeff: Yes. Where a few of my former partners, two of them, have gone to work… one for the Veteran’s Administration and one for the Congress of Neurosurgeons out of DC.

ML: And this information is based, you’re certain, on representations and information provided by HHS and other government officials?

Jeff: Yep.

ML: And when will the rest of us become aware of it? After the [presidential] election?

Jeff: Probably. I mean, there’s so many things that the government keeps under control that are used — things called H.U.D. devices — humanitarian use devices that we’re allowed to use now because they haven’t undergone full FDA approval. And they’re used in surgery because people know it’s the right thing to do. But the government can step in at any time, like they did two months ago with a device, and say, ‘this device hasn’t met what we want’ and there’s no exact criteria, and can therefore take it away from us.

ML: And the people telling you what to do — they don’t know how to make a pencil, do they?

Jeff: Exactly. That’s what I’m saying. You know, we always joke around — ‘it’s not brain surgery’ — but I did nine years after medical school, I’ve been in training ten years, and now I have people who don’t know a thing about what I’m doing telling me when I can and can’t operate.