Obama Closing Embassy at the Vatican Is a Warning for Christians

November 26, 2013

Mr. Obama has ignored Christians being slaughtered in Muslim countries, he has aimed the HHS mandate directly at Catholics, and now, instead of beefing up security at the US Embassy in the Vatican, he is moving it out of the Vatican completely. The claim is that it is not safe.

There is a good reason for  religious people to be very concerned.

Mr. Obama has already offended the Catholic church by sending openly-activist abortionists to the Vatican as Ambassadors.

Life news sees it as a snub and fears that it is a first step in pushing the United Nations to remove the Holy See’s official status at the UN.

The Vatican didn’t even have an Ambassador until Ronald Reagan recognized their importance in the downfall of communism in 1984. The church is rabidly anti-communism.OBAMAGOD-300x199

Photo of Mr. Obama as god. Is he a threat to religious freedom?

The concerns aren’t at all unrealistic.

Mr. Obama gave a speech in Ireland on his last trip to the country in which he told them to get rid of their religious schools because they are too divisive. Mr. Obama is committed to secularism over religion in every facet of life it would seem.

In October 2012, the US-based group Catholics for Choice lobbied to have the Vatican recognised as a religion not a state and pushed for their official status in the UN to be removed. Catholics for Choice is a far-left advocacy organization of alleged Catholics who love abortion and serve as a thorn in the side of real Catholics.

You will never guess who funds the Catholics for Choice (CFC)…okay, maybe you will, it’s George Soros. He also funds the faux Catholics at the Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good and Catholics United. The Socialist John Podesta, who helped run Obama’s transition team, is Chair of Soros’ Center for American Progress, and he has stated that he works closely with both groups.

Their self-described mission: ”to shape and advance sexual and reproductive ethics that are based on justice, reflect a commitment to women’s well-being and respect and affirm the capacity of women and men to make moral decisions about their lives. CFC works in the United States and internationally to ensure that all people have access to safe and affordable reproductive health-care services and to infuse our core values into public policy, community life and Catholic social teaching and thinking.”

This group recently attacked the Church for complaining that Bill de Blasio has a 60-member transition team with rabbis, an Imam and ministers but not one priest. They told the church that they should stop ‘belly-aching’ because de Blasio is obviously aware that the priests are ‘too busy’ to be on the team. De Blaseo is a communist who refers to himself a Progressive or Democratic Socialist at various times.

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21 Responses to Obama Closing Embassy at the Vatican Is a Warning for Christians

  1. Sua Sponte
    Sua Sponte
    November 26, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    They’re claiming it’s based on “security concerns”?…..At the Vatican?…Really?…Would have been nice if these tools would have taken the same approach to Benghazi (which really did have a credible threat)….But I digress, that would be an implication of individuals who actually cared about the U.S. and it’s citizens..

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 26, 2013 at 3:07 pm

      I guess they feel we need protection from Catholics but not terrorists.

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 26, 2013 at 6:22 pm

      I know, right? Of all the embassies in all the terrorist nations, what are they worried about? Why Rome of course and the Vatican no less.

  2. calvin12
    November 26, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    He also banned all non-military priests from performing mass or sacraments on-base during the Shutdown, threatening arrest if they so much as entered the bases.
    ONLY Catholic priests; no other religions.
    The Catholics (archbishops?)have filed a lawsuit against him.

  3. the unit
    November 26, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Rip me a new one I guess. Never heard of being left of center of left. Ike said left or right of the middle too far puts you in the gutter.

    Huh? Left or right of center left?

    From WashTimes…quoting them not Pope…

    “in sharp contrast to some in the political world, of mostly liberal and left-of-center progressive mind…”

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/26/pope-francis-takes-veiled-swipe-progressive-democr/#ixzz2lmyMJpLY

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 26, 2013 at 5:51 pm

      That’s a good example of poor phrasing. I guess they are trying to be PC. Anyway, Progressive is far-left.

  4. Sara Noble
    Sara Noble
    November 26, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    It seems like they are dividing and conquering. If they obliterate the Catholics after separating them from the other religious groups, they will have obliterated their biggest opponents.

  5. Doom
    November 26, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    The new pope seems to be going very secular. He doesn’t even seem to believe the church should be judicious about sin. I think this should make perfect secular sense to him. As to being anti-communist? Maybe other popes. This one, just a few days ago, attacked capitalism, singularly. He’s a papal Obama, I doubt if this will be a problem for him. Or maybe he could just support abortion, and whatever else, in some feigned attempt to get the separate ambassadorial relationship back.

    I fear for the U.S., but I fear more for the church.

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 26, 2013 at 10:19 pm

      I know what you mean. You might be right. I read his comments. The comments about economics are particularly concerning. He is a religious leader though, not a political leader, and his comments do have to be looked at in that context. That being said, he sounds like a socialist.

      If he is a papal Obama, he won’t be leading half his flock.

      I doubt he will give in on abortion. That would definitely lead to a schism.

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 27, 2013 at 8:34 am

      I just found this – http://www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=51986

      I don’t think the pope understands that it’s the trickle down that gave us a strong middle class. What he is calling for will give us more separation. Obama’s feeding Wall St. not trickle down.

    • Patricia
      November 27, 2013 at 5:46 pm

      Total agreement. What confuses me about Obama closing the embassy at the Vatican, since they fit so well with each others views. But the divide and conquering of Christianity, could very well be the reason for the closure.

      God bless HIS church.

      • Sara Noble
        Sara Noble
        November 27, 2013 at 6:13 pm

        He’s also a committed secularist. Any semblance of a government connection to religion would probably be repugnant to him. Just a guess.

  6. Seipherd
    November 26, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    These sorts of things are the contemporary Ocrats variation of wag-the-dog. However, with the current untrained Ocrat Code Pinko House pup, it’s “Smell this poop, and this poop, and then this poop. OMG, I think I’ve got the runs. Not my mess to clean up…” Distracted from O-Care yet? No? Well, too bad… The OCrat PinkO House can keep this up for a long long time…

    Gotta give Clinton some credit, at least he showed some balls in his wag-the-dog distractions..

  7. Natalie
    November 27, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Now that Mr. Obama knows the pope is a Progressive, he will step on the accelerator harder to destroy the Catholic Church. When atheists support the Pope’s agenda, you know Catholics are in trouble. The Church sold their soul to the devil for Government money. They have now VOLUNTARILY enrolled the Catholic schools in Common Core, for grant money, whose agenda is anti Christianity, promoting Muslims and pornography. Before the Pope’s appointment, a Rush caller, who refused to identify himself, stated that Pope Benedict was forced out by secularists in the Vatican and that if the Canadian Cardinal was not elected Pope the Catholic Church was finished. Looks like his prediction is coming true.

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 27, 2013 at 4:40 pm

      That’s interesting information about the Canadian Cardinal and Pope Benedict. How terrible if accurate.

      I know that the Church has had leftist infiltrators for decades now. Catholics were the biggest opponents to the leftist agenda before now.

      I think this pope sincerely believes what he is saying but it’s nuts. I was literally ill when I read the encyclical, Natalie. I read it after one of the posters commented on the article on the US taking the embassy out of the Vatican.

      Now I’m hearing the pope was misinterpreted. I don’t think that is possible but I will withhold judgment for a week.

      The pope has been uttering leftist nonsense since before he became pope.

      My niece is a very religious Catholic and she told me not to worry. He’s a good man.

      No communist is good for us – ever.

  8. mikefromlongisland631
    November 29, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    The Vatican is going Socialist-Liberation Theology, so who care ?

    • Sara Noble
      Sara Noble
      November 29, 2013 at 1:19 pm

      If that is true, it will impact the thinking of US Catholic voters who are one-third of US voters..

      • mikefromlongisland631
        November 29, 2013 at 1:28 pm

        Sara, The Pope’s last missive, of last week, didn’t spring from ANYTHING Devine.

        This is one of the “philosopher’s”, of this movement in South America !

        Pope meets with liberation theology pioneer

        Joshua J. McElwee | Sep. 25, 2013


        • Sara Noble
          Sara Noble
          November 29, 2013 at 1:39 pm

          Yikes! The Pope should be above politics. I see a Pope who might be influencing the Catholics in the Western world towards a Marxist ideology. He is minimizing those social issues which have kept many Catholics from voting for liberal politicians and he is speaking to the ideology of Barack Obama or am I overreacting?

          • mikefromlongisland631
            November 29, 2013 at 1:47 pm

            No it’s really happening !

  9. tarzan9600
    December 2, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    It seems that everybody forget ( or pretend to forget ?)the crucial point happening in the world ; i.e :
    1. There’s Wahhabist connection in every thing done by OBAMA, either in USA or in the world.
    2. Wahhabist Saud is the proprietor of Muslim World = the community of CONVERTS Muslims.

    3. OBAMA is a CONVERT , a NON WAHHABIST Muslims , serve as the secondary ( subordinate of ) to the Master Wahhabist , desire to build Caliphate of the world under Wahhabist as instructed by Qur’an Q;2;193.

    4.The world , meaning the non Wahhabist religion from Catholic, Protestant , Hindu Budha and all religion including Shiite and the CONVERTS Muslim ,together with Libertarian and Pagant,should unite them self against Wahhabist; because Wahhabist want to dominate all other religion and unbelievers under Allah.

    5.As a consequence , That the world should remember that the enemy of all people is the Wahhabist.

    This is for ref:
    Wahhabist the most serious threat to the security of the world.
    by Haytham A K Radwan

    Also see : Saudi Monastery is a danger to the world , How they robbed the Muslim world. in the link :
    Wahhabis weave web of plot in Syria by Ismail Salami;
    the link follow later
    6. t b cont,as necessary.

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