Debate Raging Over H1-B Visas: Elon & Vivek in the Line of Fire

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There is a raging, intense debate on X after Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy advocated for the US to increase legal immigration, specifically for elite engineering talent. They insisted they saw a dire shortage of skills necessary for American technological advancement.

Many became very concerned because mediocre H1-B visa holders are displacing American workers since they are cheap labor, not necessarily desirable.  H1-B was meant for talented, well-educated, exceptional people, but it’s not how it is used.

Vivek and Elon are in the crosshairs of MAGA.

Elon Musk Clarifies

Elon Musk wrote a clarification, which you can see below. He said, “I am referring to bringing in, via legal immigration, the top 0.1% of engineering talent as being essential for America to keep winning. This is like bringing in the Jokics or Wembys of the world to help your whole team, which is mostly Americans, win the NBA, thinking of America as a pro sports team that has been winning for a long time and wants to keep winning is the right mental construct.

However, many high-level workers in America have been laid off at Musk’s companies. Perhaps what he’s saying is he wants to bring in the geniuses no matter what country they come from. It is what H1-B was supposed to be and is not.

The Misused H1-B Visa Program

There is a massive misunderstanding about H1-B visas, and the people coming in on them are not elite — 1% of them being engineers and programmers. They are often mediocre or run-of-the-mill. They’re being brought in for cheap labor and not elite talent. That’s not every single one, but it sure is many of them.

I’ve had experience with that. So have others posting on X who say they had to train mediocre replacements to take their jobs. They were too often low quality and not too bright.

Vivek and Elon say they are not trying to replace American workers. Ramaswamy has said that the H1-B visa program is broken and should be replaced.

Ramaswamy didn’t phrase it well originally so what does he mean, really?

Bonchie Called It Nonsense

A frequent X poster and a writer for outlets like Red State took exception to the way Ramaswamy phrased it. Ramaswamy criticized American culture. Bonchie called it “nonsense.”

“America’s always celebrated the jock over the valedictorian and promoted the Zack and Slaters of society. Yet we built the bomb, went to the moon, and made the most advanced society in history,” Bonchie said.

Tech companies want cheap labor. It’s not about talent. Of course, that’s true.

He added, “Imagine thinking the 1930s to the 1970s were some wholesome time where society venerated being the math club champion and not smoking a pack a day while being as cool as humanly possible.”

MAGA Wants a Moratorium on H1-B visas

People on X want a moratorium on H1-B visas. Trump’s senior policy advisor for AI, Sriram Krishnan, an immigrant, wants to remove country cap limits on H1-B visas.  Some believe he only wants Indians.

Ann Coulter Weighs In

“American workers can leave a company. Imported H1B workers can’t [easily do it]. Tech wants indentured servants, not “high-skilled” workers.”

We can’t find genius Americans out of 335,000,000 people?
The Musk clarification:
Bonchie:

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No Way
5 months ago

We have plenty of talent in the U.S. in the STEM fields. What Vivek and Elon want to do is hire workers for less, ones that won’t (or can’t) switch companies for better wages. Elon is full of it and is rightfully being called out. GOP better be careful with this or they will blow it before they even get… Read more »

MicahStone
5 months ago

FACT: DEI programs and WOKE-JOKE LEFT-TARD RUN Universities have severely harmed US STEM education and personnel. For example: The American Physical Society – the main org for American physicists- is run by a RADICAL EXTREMIST LEFTIST hack at U pf Chicago, who has made DEI the #1 priority of the org. Similarly, just look at the what leftists have done… Read more »

Mr_Yesterday
5 months ago
Reply to  MicahStone

What we got here is a need to export some of our foreigners to somewhere else. The H1B visa program should be completely scrapped. Think of the logic of the program; It is a specifically designed program so that corporations can hire overseas workers and import them, because the workers have the skills the company supposedly needs. It’s a taxpayer… Read more »

Greg
5 months ago

Michelle Malkin did a number of shows on this topic. She talked with a great many, Disney for example, who brought in replacements for the IT department and the current employees had to “train” those replacements. Disney saved quite a bit doing this. At the time there was a website that showed which companies were involved. One of the issues… Read more »

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Mr_Yesterday
5 months ago
Reply to  Greg

Indeed, quite right. See my above post. H1B Visa program should be scrapped. All the corporations need to do in order to attract talent is offer American wages to legal migrants whom are willing and committed to come here legally on their own dime with their own effort. No government assistance was ever needed in the first place. H1B has… Read more »

Canadian Friend
5 months ago

I find it hard to believe that the USA, with a population of about 340 Million does not have enough brilliant people.

Mr_Yesterday
5 months ago

Well, we know Canada doesn’t, which is why they’re reaching into the India pool!

Zinger! Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Canada! Hold my beer eh.

Canadian Friend
5 months ago
Reply to  Mr_Yesterday

Western nations all have enough brilliant people, Canada included. Mass immigration only began about 50 years ago, but we – the west – had already invented almost everything without migrants, and we had already built the most successful civilization without migrants. The printing press, the steam engine, the light bulb, the airplane, rockets, heart transplants, computers, we had all that… Read more »

Peter B. Prange
5 months ago

Historically, America has grown through both home grown and imported talent. With the current state of American schools, home grown talent is not being developed as it should, and to forbid well vetted imported talent is a form of treason or what some term democide. We must not let the terrible practices of the three terms of Obama drive us… Read more »

Mr_Yesterday
5 months ago

There are those buzzwords. It’s not xenophobic to say; Our tax dollars should not be spent subsidizing foreign nationals or institutions that profiteer from such an imbalanced system.

You may want to reconsider talking about respectable IQ scores, while you’re regurgitating marxist propaganda. Thanks