This is an update to the story that the bullet they killed. Charlie Kirk may not have come from the Robinson rifle. Tyler Robinson is the man accused of murdering Charlie Kirk. He has admitted to killing him.
The new information seeks to debunk the claim that the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk doesn’t match the alleged murder weapon. The truth appears to be that the bullet was so fragmented it couldn’t be tested.
Fox News Report
Fox News: Facing what appears to be an extensive body of evidence, attorneys for accused Charlie Kirk killer Tyler Robinson signaled in a new filing they may call an ATF agent to the stand — if his inconclusive ballistic findings undercut the case.
“Regarding the firearm evidence, the defense has been provided with an ATF summary report which indicates that the ATF was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson,” Robinson’s attorneys wrote in a motion to vacate or postpone their client’s preliminary hearing. “Although the State has not indicated an intent to produce this report at the preliminary hearing, the defense may very well decide to offer the testimony of the ATF firearm analyst as exculpatory evidence.”
The brief line appears to indicate that the defense doesn’t think prosecutors can prove the bullet that killed Kirk came from the Mauser rifle recovered near the crime scene, which prosecutors allege had Robinson’s DNA on it and had been given to him by his father.
But experts say inconclusive testing doesn’t mean the match has been ruled out, and investigators have compiled other evidence in the case — including allegations that Robinson confessed or implied guilt to family and friends.
However, the report notes that the forensic pathologist pulled fragments of the bullet from Kirk’s body, not an intact bullet, and a source has stated it is impossible to do ballistics analysis on a bullet fragment.
Fox News quotes two law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation who explained that the reason the ATF was unable to match the bullet to the rifle is because when the bullet struck Kirk’s body it hit bone and broke on impact.
Bernard Zapor, a former ATF special agent in charge and faculty associate at Arizona State University, explained, “It’s not uncommon for a round that went through a human body, especially if it traveled through tissue, to say conclusively that it’s tied to a specific firearm, because by nature the projectile is supposed to transfer all of its kinetic energy, and it often disintegrates into fragments and whatnot. The fact that it went through several bone structures, there was going to be very little left.”
Retired FBI supervisor agent Jason Pack noted that the defense’s claims is not proven, and argued, “Unable to identify is not the same as ruled out. That’s a finding of inconclusiveness, not exoneration.”
Fox News points to one significant piece of evidence: The testing did positively confirm that the spent shell casing found at the scene matched the suspected murder weapon.
Jim Hanson
Jim Hanson, a Chief Strategist for the Middle East Forum who previously served in U.S. Army Special Forces and conducted counterterrorism, counterinsurgency and foreign internal defense operations in more than two dozen countries, has weighed in on the case.
“Dear Everyone freaking out about the bullet in the Charlie Kirk case. The report says they “could not” match it to Robinson’s gun. Not, It “does not” match it. A fragmented & deformed bullet may not have had enough material to make a positive ID,” Hanson wrote on X.
“They apparently did not have a bullet or jacket intact enough to do a rifling comparison to Robinson’s weapon. But they did recover unspent ammunition in the weapon/magazine and they may be able to see if there is a match metallurgically between the jackets,” Hanson added.
Justin Nazaroff
Justin Nazaroff, CEO of Fenix Ammunition, has also weighed in on the story.
“Completely and utterly misleading garbage. The bullet is “unable to be identified” because it fucking fragmented into a bunch of pieces, dipshit, and when that happens they don’t do some magic “CSI: Las Vegas” animation where they manage to reassemble the bullet and perfectly align the lands and grooves to match a barrel. None of that is real. That is now how science works. Watch all the retards go wild. I bet Candace and Ian buy a new car off this,” he wrote.
Original Story
Caveat: This is one ATF agent and it could be fake news.
The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by the prime suspect, Tyler Robinson, according to a bombshell new court filing. The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by the prime suspect, Tyler Robinson, according to a bombshell new court filing. We heard this from a number of people, but, without proof, I stayed away from it. However, now we have some evidence.
Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death sentence for Kirk’s murder at Utah Valley University on September 10.
But the defense team may now offer the ATF firearm analyst’s testimony as exculpatory evidence, they said in a motion filed on Friday to push the preliminary hearing back at least six months.
The DNA reports filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and ATF will take the defense team time to analyze, as they indicate that several different DNA samples were found on some items of evidence.
“As these cases indicate, determining the number of contributors to a DNA mixture and determining whether the FBI and the ATF reliably applied validated and correct scientific procedures… is a complicated process that requires the assistance of various types of experts, including forensic biologists, geneticists, system engineers, and statisticians, all of whom must review and evaluate” several different categories, the filing states, according to Deseret News.
They have had time since September 10th.
The defense has received tens of thousands of documents to pour over. “The defense team has devoted, and will continue to devote, significant resources to processing discovery, including identifying materials not yet received to inform readiness for the preliminary hearing,” the filing states.
“However, the defense team is realistic, and the comprehensive review required to determine what is missing will take hundreds of hours.
‘”What is known at present is that Mr. Robinson has not yet received the forensic case files and data necessary to investigate, through the use of qualified experts, the scientific reports the state intends to introduce at the preliminary hearing,” the attorneys continued.
Defense attorneys and prosecutors had previously met on March 12. They don’t have the forensic files.
‘”What is known at present is that Mr. Robinson has not yet received the forensic case files and data necessary to investigate, through the use of qualified experts, the scientific reports the state intends to introduce at the preliminary hearing,” the attorneys continued.
If the bullet doesn’t match, that certainly suggests someone in the crowd killed Charlie. might he have worked with someone?