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Abdul El Sayed and Hasan Piker Are The Democrat Party Now

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I was shocked by this 2-Way debate today and agreed with Mark Halperin that Hasan Piker seems like a “horrible person.” Halperin mentioned that Senatorial candidate Abdul El Sayed campaigned with Piker and spent election night and his victory party with him. In addition, I know that in several interviews El Sayed has refused to disavow Piker.

The Democrat on Halperin’s panel didn’t think it was a problem, and made excuses for it. He said El-Sayed doesn’t agree with everything Piker says. He sounds naive.

He also suggested that it was important for El Sayed to have Piker’s large audience support him. It seems like Piker’s following are Nazis, communists, and youth who carry a lot of hate around.

When the head of the Nazis, David Duke, said he supported Trump, Democrats made Trump disavow him repeatedly. Trump never had anything to do with the man, but Democrats claimed he wanted Nazis to vote for him.

The Republican representative doesn’t think people will care if he is hanging around with Piker since he’s just a podcaster. She called him too liberal. When are people going to stop calling socialists and communists “liberals?” Liberalism is dead. These are authoritarians.

Piker has expressed hate for its country and Americans. Piker said he wanted to see the blood of capitalists in the streets, and that someone should kill Senator Scott. One of his more memorable comments was “Americans deserved 9/11.” He later said he obviously didn’t mean it, even though he obviously did.

Sentinel was banned everywhere for telling the truth about vaccines and elections, but Piker is okay? Suddenly, they believe in free speech.

Watch or read the transcript

This is the Democrat Party now.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 (Mark Halperin)

Our mantra here is show the presumption of grace to all, with the possible exception of Hasan Piker. The more I learn about the guy, the more I believe he is an exception to the rule that we should be showing the presumption of grace to all.

He’s a. He seems to be a horrible person. He seems to be the very like if you were making a writing a Tom Wolfe novel or making a movie like a I don’t know like a Coen Brothers movie, and you just wanted just a an over the here’s what it seems like to me. What’s the name of that actor? Sacha Baron Cohen.

He seems like he’s just a Sacha Baron Cohen character, like he’s so over the top in what he does, and and he he spent part of election eve with Dr. Abdul El Sayed, and he was at his victory night party. If the nominee called you up and said I like to hang out with Mr. Piker and I’ve been hanging out with him a lot between now and Election Day. What do you think of that? What would you say to that?

Speaker 2

Look, I think Dr. El Sayed had a really fantastic answer to this. If you listen to his time with the New Yorker radio …and look, he (El Sayed) doesn’t agree with everything that Hasan Piker said, and he thought that some of the things he said about America, you know, … 9/11 thought that was, you know, very distasteful and disgusting to say.

So I think what politicians are going to have to say now is, look, is it is it is it more important for us to connect with Hasan Parker’s large audience, or should we just stop giving him a platform to build on?

I mean, even after last night in Michigan, you saw what he said today, and the advice he’s giving El Sayed, which I think is completely wrong.

I mean, look, you should not burn this thing down. El Sayed has a responsibility to reach out to voters who voted for Haley Stevens, who voted for Mallory McMorrow, who didn’t vote for him, and start to consolidate the party.

And so I think Democrats have got to have to make a hard decision. What’s more important, expanding the audience, or having Hasan Piker have this large platform where he is starting to be really irresponsible with?

Speaker 1

So, so what’s the answer to the question? Maybe I missed it. Should he? Would you tell him to stop appearing with him, or would you say it doesn’t matter? You can just say you disagree with them, and then you can keep appearing with them.

Speaker 2

I think right now you you can you can keep using that platform to the advantage. We got we can’t leave people sort of uninformed.

And I think you know if if they’re hearing what he’s saying every day, I I would prefer for mainstream and other Democrats to be a part of that conversation as well.

But it’s a difference in going and grabbing a beer and a coffee or pizza with him. I mean, I think you got to make sure that Democrats know this is a good platform to use right now. But things he’s saying are not within step. When you say, I’m

Speaker 1

sorry to interrupt, but when you say good platform, you mean appearing on his program,

Speaker 2

on his program, on you know, on social media. I mean, he, he, you guys, we can’t deny that he has built a really, really large You know, audience

Speaker 1

Bin Laden had a big following too.

Speaker 2

No, I look. I’m not gonna. I’m not gonna go back and forth with you on that. I think it’s still advantageous for for Democrats right now to engage with this electorate, particularly those who are not engaged. If you, if you decide as a Democrat you’re not going to talk to these people and you’re going to instead, you know, disengage. I think that’s the wrong thing to

Speaker 1

Okay, I agree with you in general, and I’m not painting with a broad brush and saying everyone on those platforms is bad. And I’m not saying we should be as a society judgmental about people’s ideas. We should be open to ideas. But this guy just seems different to me because of some of the things he said moments ago. He told great reporter Adam Rehn of the Politico…Piker tells me he’s open to campaigning with Abdul Al Sayed in the general election. “If they require my services, I will always be there.”

Kristen, I respect you so much, and I understand what you’re saying about almost anybody else. But this guy- and I’m talking about politics, but I’m also talking about doing what’s right. You can’t. I just don’t believe you can say this guy’s platform is so valuable. I mean, you can say. I just, I just don’t understand the point of view that says his platform’s so valuable. You can just say I don’t agree with him on everything, and then you can bring him to election night.

Speaker 2

Look, I’m not saying bring him to election night, Mark. I think there’s there’s specific nuance. You know, let’s not play too cute with this. Like we know there’s nuance in how we engage people. You know, it’s a difference in having him as your best friend sitting next to you at election night versus going on his platform and having a conversation about issues. You know, and so I think we’ve got to be thoughtful about that, you know.

If Josh Shapiro is willing to go and have a conversation with him on his platform, I would I would say … go ahead and do that. I’m not saying Josh Shapiro should go and have and have a you know some sort of sandwich with him in Philly. You know, I think this is going to go down to how much longer is he going to be able to build this platform and the way he’s doing it and what he’s going to do with it?

Now he is proven over the last 24 hours to not learn his lesson and still saying things that are unsavory. So at some point, maybe Democrats should have a conversation with each other and say, “Hey, let’s disavow him and not give him any attention. But as it stands, if I were Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear, I would go on his on this on his platform. I would have a conversation. I would say that I disagree with him, and I would be forceful about it.

Speaker 1

Okay, brilliant. …

Speaker 1

Kristen. I hear such a difference of opinion amongst people I respect about this general election. So critical again for people who aren’t following it as closely. It speaks to this brand of politics. It speaks to an insider versus outsider, and of course, it speaks probably to who can if the Democrats really have a chance to take the majority back.

If if you were to, if Mike Rogers said to you, Kristen, what are this guy’s three biggest vulnerabilities in a general election in Michigan? Is Hasan Piker one of them? What would be on your list of three biggest vulnerabilities, issues, whatever?

Speaker 5

I don’t. I don’t think in this election having an outside podcast person is one of the top three. I think framing that that this is an individual who cares more about his political career, his political influence, the extremism versus lowering your gas bills and utility bills. That’s what this election is going to be about. So there’s a nuance to that. I wouldn’t say that, you know. I just think we’re past the age of silver bullets and October surprises.

There’s a surprise every day now that you have to deal with and adjust to in our politics today. I think that what Jaime said about Josh Shapiro going and talking on his show- in my opinion, I think it’s a brilliant move. Why? Because people wouldn’t expect Josh to do it, and I actually would have him come and have a cheesesteak in Philadelphia and air it out, as let’s talk about our differences. Yeah. Let me let me let me explain why your words hurt.

Speaker 1

So so why is why is I’m about to tell you in a moment all the great things that happened to the Democratic nominee today, but tell me why is he is he vulnerable because he’s too liberal. Is he vulnerable because of his position on Israel? Where would he be vulnerable in a general election in Michigan?

Speaker 5

I would say too liberal, and I would say similar to the Harris campaign in 2024. I think one of the more brilliant things the Trump campaign did was framing them as being more focused on, you know, the priorities of minority group-not you know demographic minority, but just a small, loud group in their party versus the broader electorate-and I think that that this pulling a podcaster pulling a candidate so far to the left on issues that people in Michigan aren’t talking about when they get off of work is the danger there? You know, I don’t know.

I mean, there will be a lot of scary ads that say he’s a socialist and look at this. You know, he said these things about America. I don’t know if in this election cycle that is going to be enough to hurt a Democrat candidate like that. I do think that the risk there is if that Democrat candidate goes along with it and, by doing so, isn’t talking about the income inequality platform, which I think helped him win some of the Democrats.

Speaker 1

Right. Well said.

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