Sixty fighting Bradley tanks were put on a US ship, the Arc Integrity, for eventual transport to Ukraine. Professor Sal asks if this is a legitimate target for Russians.
This is similar to how we got into World War I. Germany attacked US Merchant Vessels.
This is the 106th anniversary of Germany declaring warfare against the Allies a second time. That is when Germany sank Merchant ships and killed over 60 sailors.
The question is can Russia attack the Arc Integrity, the ship carrying the Bradley tanks? Look to the 106th anniversary and the beginning of World War I. (Go to about 13:00). Sal doesn’t think so. Any attack on US shipping would be a direct attack on the US. He does not know what Putin would do, but it would be an act of war. That’s why he believes it’s important for US ships to transport the equipment.
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The ship will deliver its cargo. Period. As one poster has figured, to Bremen or my guess is to Gdansk. Putin’s best weapon and one he is using daily, is shouting “BOO!” and watching the West scurry for the fallout shelters.
I don’t think Putin is playing games. He’s letting Winter take it’s toll on Ukraine by destroying power plants as fast they can be repaired. I expect a Russian Blitzkrieg in 6 or 8 weeks and this will be over. Then the Kremlin will start a Propaganda War against the West with all the captured intel. That will be the Real War, because that will be when Putin goes after the US Dollar as the Reserve Currency. Putin is playing the same game on us that Reagan played on the USSR. An economic crisis will cause the US to implode from within.
Has anyone seen any articles that verify Russia purchased hypersonic missles from China that travel up Mach 10 and don’t need to fly in straight line?
Russia should just track them to source and annihilate them on delivery….
When a Merchant Ship transports military cargo to a war zone, it is no longer a Merchant Ship. At best it is a Mercenary Vessel if it has a Civilian Crew and so a legitimate target as it is now part of a Military Supply Chain. If the Ship is flying a US Flag then it’s the US that is creating an Act of War. The Arc Integrity probably should Fly the Jolly Roger. I wouldn’t want to be it’s insurance company!
I was told by old time mariners that In the early part of WWII, a submarine would surface and give a merchant ship 5 minutes to abandon ship before sending it to Davy Jones’ Locker. When the military escorts a ship there is no such courtesy. I suspect there will be some type of escort. In my days as a Merchant Seaman, I transported military cargo; I’d take a pass on this job!
Obviously. Joe Biden doesn’t have the balls to use a Military Transport with a Military crew for this mission. What a Wanker!
He knows bidet is feckless and won’t do a thing. He knows that ship is bringing supplies to destroy HIS CITIZENS. He has every right to sink it. He knows he won’t be retaliated against, so why not?
Hope those fools have their affairs in order because they are going to be seeing davy jones realfast.
What pooty could do is bring a vessel next to it and say, you got 2 choices, we evac you and bring you to safety BEFORE we sink it, or you go down with it. Your choice. That way they can’t play the he killed xx people because he did try to help them first.
Uh, “his citizens”? You mean the troops of the invading armies from Russia? So you support the overthrow of Ukraine by Russia as phase one of the land grab intending to restore the USSR? Are you a Russian? Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and downsized their military due to promises from Dem Clinton that we would protect them from Russia (which communist Dem Obama failed to do in 2014). You are too ignorant for words. BTW: The Russian navy is both small and has major maintenance and crewing problems.
You mean troops from Ukrainian army invading Donbass to eliminate the Russian speaking population. You must watch too much Fox News, or, actually any simplistic MSM outlet in the US.
They are not tanks. They are armored personnel carriers.
The biggest mistake most people make, and it can result tin catastrophe, is assuming another thinks as I think.
Most Personality Profilers work with 4 major personality types and a dozen combinations. Many systems are bi-polar in the sense that their are to basic types mixed in different ways. Examples: naturally suspicious vs trusting; leader vs follower; think first vs emotionally react first; etc.
From the Russian point of view:
1) The allies provided long rage weapons to attack Russian supply lines in Russian territory. Therefore, we have a right to attack ally supply lines to the Ukraine. Torpedo the tank carrying ship.
History: The allies used passenger liners to carry arms during WW 1. The Lusitania was sunk.
2) The people of allied countries are most concerned about the value of each individual and don’t want people to die in war. We view people as servants of the state. We will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons.
To not understand or not have proper intelligence on the enemy’s real thinking is almost a guarantee of a catastrophe.
Since the time of Sun-Tzu intelligence has been the key to winning a war.
That was prove again and again during WW 2.
3) Western historical thinking is shallow, for instance blaming an assassination for WW 1. The real reason was the battle for world supremacy through colonies.
the Brits were protecting their colonial areas, such as in Africa from perceived German advances. At a time when full mobilization of troops was considered an act of war, they mobilized their navy, Germany responded (only more quickly and more efficiently) and with dual declaration of war it was on!!!
Understanding the real nature of the conflict in the Ukraine as western aggression to deprive us of a buffer we feel we need to have for our survival, we see this as a contest about our survival and that puts all weapons on the table in including thermonuclear ones. We believe in all out war, we will survive and our enemies so weakened that we will be safe for at least another 50 years.
‘Nuff said for this forum. Thanks for reading
I agree, we were taught so many silly things. Germany, France and some other nations went info WW1 anxiously, not because some radicals killed someone.
How is fighting back against territorial expansion by Russia “western aggression”? There is nothing in Russia worth taking. (North Korea is better example of a totally worthless country). No one has any interest in invading Russia. Russian hostility, paranoia, and aggression is the root of the problem. Especially ex-KGB Putin.
Maybe read a little. The US, along with the UK had plans for a Russian invasion shortly after WWII. It’s been talked about in several venues in the past year. They want to break up Russia and gain access to its resources. They speak openly about it now.
What Do YOU know about Putin and the KGB. That sounds like the same simplistic tropes as “Putin’s Playbook”, “typical Russian propaganda” and many other examples. There’s no concrete evidence so they use a soundbite to deflect giving direct answers.
We are already in a war with Russia. Sink that ship, if I were Russia. Hell, we couldn’t defeat the Taliban, what makes us think we can defeat Russia. By the way, we are depleating our weapons by giving them to Ukraine. Shame how Americans sit with their thumbs up their asses as we promote a world war and destruction, maybe of our own country. There would be a lot of crying if the draft comes back and Americans are forced to join the fight.
I fully support your comment! Well done!
Thank you Peter!!
I think those tanks are easy enough to get when on the ground when the are ready to use in a few months. But the missiles may not be. Maybe the upcoming Russian offensive will target the areas it already has made advances in to solidify their situation. Russia has piled up on the border to stop a Ukraine offensive. There’s no chance Ukraine can make progress in an offensive into Russia. The most NATO can do is antagonize Russia with some hits.
That would be awesome to see. These nutless cowards with their I support… the thing..oh and ukrayon little stickers all over the place. Ok, you support them GOOD, grab a gun and go fight their war for them !
So LaLa, you would support the Russian invasion of another country, to be followed soon after by invasions of Estonia Latvia, and Lithuania (Putin’s stated goal of reforming the USSR). I guess you would be fine with a Chinese invasion of Taiwan as well. I can see that you are either extremely ignorant or a Russian supporter (hmm, same thing actually).
That’s just a Damn Lie. Read the speech he gave. The West has attempted to create a caricature of Putin that is a fraud in the extreme. But the West always needs the boogeyman. Look what the West tried to do in the 90’s and from there you can understand how Putin came to power and turned it around.
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