ABC News released some notes and a comment President Trump made to Pence that are in a new book. They are notes Jack Smith planned to use as evidence to prosecute President Trump. The big reveal is that Trump apparently told Pence he would be known as a “wimp.” This was during their final phone call on January 6, 2021, before Congress certified the 2020 election.
This big expose is in ABC News correspondent Jonathan Karl’s new book. Jack Smith was going to use Pence’s notes as evidence.
“You’ll go down as a wimp,” Trump told Pence about his decision not to block Biden’s certification, just before the president took the stage at the “Save America” rally on the Ellipse. “If you do that, I made a big mistake 5 years ago,” Pence wrote Trump told him.
The exclusive details are reported in Karl’s upcoming book, “Retribution: Donald Trump and the Campaign that Changed America.”
Trump told Pence, “You listen to the wrong people,” according to Karl. creating a gap in the historical record of the former-and-future president’s alleged actions.
If being called a “wimp” is a threat to Pence, it only proves he’s a wimp.
Unsurprisingly, Pence Depicts Himself as Righteous
“You’re not protecting our country, you’re supposed to support + defend our country,” Pence wrote, according to Karl.
“I said we both [took] an oath to support + defend the Constitution,” Pence said, according to his notes Karl reports. “It doesn’t take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law.”
Multiple witnesses in the White House that morning told the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 that the conversation between Pence and Trump quickly became “heated,” with Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump recalling that her father used a “different tone” from what she’d previously heard him use with Pence.
“I remember hearing the word ‘wimp,'” Nicholas Luna, Trump’s former assistant, said in a taped deposition. “Either he called him a wimp, I don’t remember if he said, ‘You are a wimp, you’ll be a wimp.’ Wimp is the word I remember.”
Retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg — Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine and Russia — told the committee in a taped deposition that he remembers Trump telling Pence he wasn’t “tough enough.”
Smith planned to use the notes to prove Trump knew what he was doing was illegal and the election was legitimate. The ultimate goal was to show he knew how serious the riot was, and he instigated it.
Oh, and Trump added an angry emoji.
You can read the story at ABC News.
As usual, Trump was correct.
what’s next john? sun rises in the east.
Trump’s right again … Pompous Pence is a spineless wimp.
A treacherous wimp too.
screw johnathan karl. I don’t care about him or his book. another Trump hater trying to sell a book.
Oh yeah, we’re all ahgast. “Sitch langwitch!” That was Trump playing nice, foo’.
Many called him TRAITOR, the Benedict Arnold of the Republican Party.
Pence was never a true Republican. Like half of the “Republicans’ in congress, he is a deadbeat RINO traitor.
Wimp was a polite way to describe peewee pence.
A backstabbing, lowdown, duplicitous, traitorous, cowardly wimp who attempted to conceal his treachery behind a veil of virtue.
But the America First MAGA Base knew better. He not only could act, he had a duty to act, after an election that had allegations of fraud, late night ballot dumps, a simultaneous pause between the Swing States, Republican observers duped into leaving for the night, mystery ballots and dozens of other irregularities, that combined to provide Biden with a miracle comeback defying all historical norms!!
If the VP’s role in the certification of elections wasn’t to act as one final check and balance against certifying a fraudulent outcome, then the nation’s founders wouldn’t have specifically included it in the constitution!!
And the MAGA Base had our assessment confirmed when after the election had concluded and an imposter POTUS was installed, Pelosi and the Democrats immediately passed legislation converting the VP’s role into a strictly ceremonial task.
All Lil Wimpy Pence had to do was kick the problematic results back to the state bodies for a second review. Then if the states confirmed those bogus results and he certified them, he’d have fulfilled his duties to President Trump, his position, the nation and the American people. Had he done so, nobody would forever see him as Brutus but he didn’t, because he’s a weak cowardly man and RINO- who was never MAGA and accepted the role specifically for such a moment!!
Pence is a liar, a backstabber, and a Judas. He could have saved the USA from four stolen years.
Damn right. LETS GO BRANDON!
Pence’s remarks on the law have no legal basis. That is easy to prove, since Congress changed the law right after that to remove the VP power to block certification. Case closed.
Pence certainly is a wimp. He now goes on TV news shows to make cheap shots like wimps do. Real men consider how they appear as a man before they take action. Pence continues to pay a big price for his action, the permanent loss of reputation. That never ends. He hides now at a small college away from Indiana.
Unfortunately Donald picked the wimp.
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