Here’s a Not So Fast Update:
The Saudis and the Gulf states closed the airspace to the US and Israel. So, you know how Biden’s media has bragged about this amazing coalition he brought together to save Israel? Not so fast! The US and UK helped, but Israel shot down most of the drones and missiles. They expended a half billion dollars worth of weaponry doing it.
The Saudis are reluctant to side with the United States openly, and Israel absent a more concrete security arrangement with Washington, according to “The Wall Street Journal.”
The Saudis didn’t fulfill most of the US requests.
And all those reports about Jordan downing drones? Jordon said they shot down drones that threatened their airspace.
The claims that Jordanian jets had shot down an Israeli drone en route to Israel were triggered by a report generated by Reuters chief reporter in Jordan Suleiman Al-Khalidi.
He is a Jordanian himself, with dozens of his family members residing in Amman. Al Khalidi faces the Hashemite regime’s ruthless grip on any reports generated in Jordan. Al Khalidi’s original report quotes “two regional security sources” as his reference. While the term “regional” is very vague, one has to be curious about why the Jordanian Air Force has not yet published any reports confirming the alleged incident.
It came from one reporter with two sketchy unknown sources. It was used to politicize issues. It’s likely not true.
All that bragging about Biden’s great job forming a coalition was fake news. There was no coalition.
Original Story April 15, 12:37
Saudi Arabia deployed its military to defend Israel against the unprecedented Iranian attack. It signals a change in the region where the terror nation of Iran seeks hegemony. If you ever meet Iranian people, you’ll find they are nice, and it’s a tragedy that they have religious fascists in control.
That Iranian attack on Israel was ferocious, with about 300 to 350 drones and missiles, 99% of which were shot down or never reached the targets.
Saudi Arabia’s decision to join forces with Israel and other Western allies is a stunning change. It also occurs while discussions for a peace agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel are ongoing. Donald Trump came up with the Abraham Accords, which were the impetus for these discussions.
Donald Trump planned to starve the terror nation of power through sanctions and isolate them. It was working. Biden ended that and tried to dismantle the Abraham Accords.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin deserves credit. He has discussed the situation with his Saudi counterpart, Khalid bin Salman. The Pentagon has assured him that the United States does not seek escalation but will continue to defend Israel. Jordan’s involvement in the defense efforts further underscores regional unity against aggression. They joined despite Iran’s warnings. Jordan is having problems with radical elements and other Palestinians in its nation.
The Reasons Given
Jordan’s government issued a statement describing its military action as an act of self-defense, not done for the benefit of Israel.
It said the drones and missiles “that entered our airspace last night were dealt with and confronted preventively without endangering the safety of our citizens and residential and populated areas.”
Jordan is home to a large population of Palestinians.
Prince bin Salmon acknowledged his role. Many of Iran’s drones and missiles also crossed over Saudi Arabia.
While Jordan had openly disclosed its role in the defensive maneuver, Saudi Arabia’s acknowledgment came as a summary on its official website, citing insights from a source within the Saudi royal family. They are concerned about regional stability.
The report on the royal family’s website quoted an official condemning Iran’s aggressive actions and attributing them to the regime’s support for terrorism. The official underscored the urgency of curbing Iran’s destabilizing influence, emphasizing the need for global action against Tehran’s belligerent activities.
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There are widely varying assessments of this story here. There are several credible but contradictory accounts. I’m reminded that in every war, initial reports are always wrong. It’s usually deliberate, although the fog of war also plays its role, as well. if the MSM is giving their 100% state-controlled version, that’s obviously Biden’s disinformation campaign at work. It can be safely disregarded as complete and total garbage. During warfare, the lies are repeated the loudest and most often. It’s also the only proof you need to see in order to realize that the Bidet administration is constantly at war with the American people. This administration lies nonstop. That’s evidence of ongoing warfare. Things are not good in America.
Israel has a healthy domestic arms market, as suggested by Greg. However, they still buy, or co-develop a very large amount of radar, missile, aircraft and cyber technology in partnership with the USA. This makes sense, because the U.S. has only been an unreliable defense partner for the last three years under Biden. We weren’t always this weak and woke, and advanced weapon systems take well over three years to develop, manufacture and deploy. Ten years is a more realistic timeframe — sometimes longer.
I don’t doubt that Israel did the overwhelming majority of its own defense. But they used a lot of systems that were supplied by or co-developed with the USA. Only in more recent days are they realizing that the U.S. has become a woke and unreliable partner. For these reasons, their domestic arms market is getting a big boost out of necessity. At this time, it is not realistic to believe that their radar and missile systems are vastly superior to their U.S. partner’s systems. They share most of the same technology and components. What is likely is that they are very committed to a robust defense, while the Biden administration sat on its hands, again.
Israel had used the Iron Dome, Arrow and David’s Sling during this operation. It is unknown whether they used the Iron Beam system, although it was used early in the war. It has been reported it is soon to be fully deployed.
There are no good corporate media stories. All are self serving but professional military sites are carrying pretty good reports on deployments of units and actual events between the allies. The biggest questions are the supposed use of US air assets as opposed to naval assets. I find it hard to believe that air assets were deployed from the US rather than from Europe or the Middle East.
Its amazing seeing people who have no military experience parroting the reporting people with an agenda. Radar has limits, just because airspace was not utilized this does not mean information was not used, clearly coordinates were provided and tracking data was given. American control aircraft are based and have been based out of Saudi for decades. These serve as airborne battle control centers. If the Saudis were not cooperating they would not have been allowed to participate. Our commenters again display their vast knowledge and experience in such affairs.
The armaments that American aircraft carry could not deal with the numbers of attackers that were deployed. Nor were the explanations of where the American aircraft deployments logical nor reasonable requiring lengthy flight times and imposing major coordination problems. Especially when far better options were available. One notes no mention of naval assets that were deployed.
Finally, it takes a truly astute individual to believe any nation would take a firm stand along side Israel given Bidens 30 billion dollar support of Iran and clear support of its attack on Israel and continuing support of murderers and warmongers.
It is truly enlightening to hear the usual “informed” opinions of those who have never served, whose military experience was acquired watching Star Wars, and whose knowledge of the military comes from watching the view. One is in awe of these people vomiting forth the talking points of MSNBC and the NY Times without them giggling.
Israeli reconnaissance aircraft is far superior than the US versions. It can map thousands of targets simultaneously. Furthermore, Israel was far superior anti-missile, aircraft and drone systems.
Maybe you should get ‘clued-in’, since you are clueless. You probably rely on the likes of Fox News.
And the name of that recon aircraft is skippy? Since almost all Israeli equipment is manufactured and researched in conjunction with American defense firms, even David’s sling, you have once again demonstrated your extensive knowledge and expertise as a gender studies major. And perhaps the superior Israeli aircraft, otherwise known as the F-15 and F-32, were manufactured in Israel? Right dunsky. Their anti missile systems likewise. Did you get your data from the View?
Tell us about your time at the War College, or your years at Lockheed. Oh that’s right you’re a gender studies major who served in Girl Scouts. Impressive. Israeli drone systems are decades behind the USA clown. They have less than 20% of the capabilities of American drones, which is why the Israelis are dependent on US equipment. Only a clown like you would cite Fox, since you clearly depend on the View and CNN.
You can’t even get the roles of the Jordanians or Saudis right nor can grap C&C functions right.
You really Are Obama’s lackey. Israel has to Upgrade the avionics of those US fighters in order to be effectively used. The US has been relying on Israel in the technology area for some time. The Iron Dome, although assembled in the US has to rely on Israeli parts.
The Israeli spy plane, called the world’s most sophisticated stealth plane, used cutting AI tech to foil Iran’s drone and missile blitz. Computers on the jet tracked ALL of the 320 incoming missiles and drones.
Little do you know. Do some “reading” for once, instead of blabbering incoherent thoughts.
The Israeli’s have upgraded US avionics? Really and this is based on what data skippy? What is this based on? What company upgrade what systems? The US relies on Israeli technology? You are fucking nuts? Dom you think the US could threaten Israel if the US relied on their technology buttercup. Name one laser system Israel deploys and who developed it, one railgun system, one infrared guidance system that is used for radar lock on and who developed it asswipe. Every system Israel uses was developed with American technology and assistance. This is why Israel is being blackmailed by Biden, Israel depends on the USA not the other way around skippy.
Go to Amazon and buy some Kool Aid. You need to drink some more.
It was reported by a number of sources years ago. It’s Not New.
Obviously you read Very VERY LITTLE. There is such a thing as “Google” Use it, and learn a little.
You are too stupid to be a gender studies major. You just vomit forth the same old sad talking points without displaying one once of knowledge or insight. How long have you been Smallwell’s aide?
Just a Jew-hating bigot, Prisoner in disguise.
You are just another iditol vomiting forth talking points playing the bigot card-just like all the other idiots at Columbia and then wondering why they do it to you.
Blathering on the wonders of Israeli technology, so wonderful that no other military in the world uses, hmmmm, wonder why that is. If Israeli technology is so great why can Biden threaten them with turning off the spigot?
But bigots gotta play the bigot card. You know when you play it you lose support when they turn it on you folks. So keep it up skippy. People remember.
By the way what is you security clearance? And what is your MOS?
Israel isn’t called the “Start-up” nation for nothing. A “short” list.
Air Defense systems
Iron Dome
Tamir, missile used by Iron Dome
C-Dome (the naval version of Iron Dome)
MIC4AD
SPYDER
David’s Sling
Drone Dome
Iron Beam
Sky Sonic
Air to Air missiles
Python-5
I-Derby
I-Derby ER
Sky Spear (missile)
Air to Surface missile
Spice (bomb) Family
SPARROW family
Rocks Family, unveiled in February 2019.[24][25]
Electronic Warfare Systems
SKY SHIELD Escort Jamming pod
C-GEM Active Offboard Decoy
Precision Guided missiles
SPIKE ER
SPIKE LR
SPIKE NLOS
Sea Breaker
Missile upgrade kits
Electro-optical Precision Integration Kit (EPIK)[26]
Active Protection System
TROPHY an active armor protection system, “Windbreaker” (Hebrew: מעיל רוח)
Remote-controlled weapon station
Rafael OWS (nicknamed “MAG Rafael” by the IDF)
Samson RCWS (Hebrew name: קטלנית)
Typhoon Weapon Station for naval applications and military ships
Demining Systems
Rafael Carpet
Unmanned aerial vehicles
UAVs – unmanned aerial vehicles, manufactured by IAI’s MALAT division:
Pioneer (with the USA)
RQ-5 Hunter (with the USA)
Heron family of long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV)
Harpy
Eitan
I-View
Harop
Ranger
Scout
Searcher
Bird-Eye family of mini-UAV
Panther
Ghost
Military air systems
Rafael Python 5 air-to-air missile (together with Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd.)
Upgrades to F-16 and F-15, and MiG-21 jet fighters
Upgrades to Sikorsky CH-53 Yas’ur in project “Yas’ur 2000”
Avionics upgrades for the Ka-50-2 Erdogan gunship in collaboration with Kamov
Phalcon air surveillance system
Eitam – adaptations of a Gulfstream G550 for airborne early warning and control
Griffin LGB – a system for converting unguided bombs into precision-guided munitions
SkySniper air to surface missile
Ground defense systems
IDF Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozer.
IDF Caterpillar D9R’s armor kit
IAI JUMPER[29] (See also XM501 Non-Line-of-Sight Launch System)
Unmanned skid steer loader “Front Runner”
Unmanned IDF Caterpillar D9 remote-controlled bulldozer
AMMAD
TopGun (artillery)
Scorpius Electronic Warfare System
Ground transportation
Assembly of IC3 diesel multiple unit trains and double-decker railway coaches under license from Bombardier Transportation
Taxibot, semi-robotic towbarless pushback tractor.[30][31]
RBY MK 1
RAM MK3
Unmanned ground vehicles
Guardium
Sahar – robotic engineering scout
Robattle
D9T Panda – unmanned version of the IDF Caterpillar D9T armored bulldozer
Naval systems
Super Dvora Mk III class patrol boat[32]
Super Dvora Mk II class patrol boat
Dvora class fast patrol boat
Dabur class patrol boat
Missile systems
Arrow – Anti-ballistic missile system
Arrow 3 – Anti-ballistic missile system
Barak 1 – Surface-to-air missile
Barak 8 – Surface-to-air missile (jointly developed with DRDO of India)
Gabriel – Air-to-surface, surface-to-surface anti-ship missile
Iron Dome – mobile all-weather air-defence system
Jericho I – Short-range ballistic missile
Jericho II & III – Long-range ballistic missile
LAHAT – Anti-tank missile
LORA – Tactical ballistic missile
Nimrod – Air-to-surface, surface-to-surface missile
Skysonic – weapon system under development
Space hardware
AMOS (satellite bus)
Intelsat 24
AMOS-2
AMOS-3
AMOS-4
AMOS-6
EROS (satellite)
EROS A
EROS B
Ofeq Satellite series
Ofek-7
Ofek-9
Ofek-10
RISAT-2 satellite
SHALOM (satellite)
Shavit space launcher
Middle East Newsline has reported that IAI will launch one or more CubeSats by the end of 2008.[33]
TecSAR reconnaissance satellite, launched on 21 January 2008[34]
VENµS satellite
Again moron which companies developed these systems. I realize your a gender studies major and can’t read but try firms like Raytheon, Lockheed, Northrup-Grumman, L3-Harris. By the way being so informed explain to me what the term ICEBERG means.
And tell us about your vast experience in the military and intelligence.
I’m waiting.
You’re just a Jew-hating bigot, Prisoner in disguise.
Nice to see you couldn’t rebut one thing I said. Do your parents know you had a lobotomy or were you born that way?
Look at the list. Israeli expertise at its best.
Instead of being SO LAZY check out all the sources dealing with Israel military and technology. Laziness is the food of the ignorant.
Saudis, Gulf states barred airspace to US, Israel during Iran attack
Typical moronic comment. Tell us more gender studies major. The US has had aircraft based in Saudi for decades and still does.
REPORTS OF JORDANIAN AIR FORCE DOWNING DRONES OVER AMMAN ARE NOT TRUE
Baghdad Greg says these reports aren’t true. Right. Amazing how the Jordanian AF has stated they shot down these aircraft/missiles. Go to Amazon a buy a new dummy to use. Your stick is getting really old and sick.
Read the article!
You cannot read skippy.
Based on what sir?