There is a raging, intense debate on X after Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy advocated for the US to increase legal immigration, specifically for elite engineering talent. They insisted they saw a dire shortage of skills necessary for American technological advancement.
Many became very concerned because mediocre H1-B visa holders are displacing American workers since they are cheap labor, not necessarily desirable. H1-B was meant for talented, well-educated, exceptional people, but it’s not how it is used.
Vivek and Elon are in the crosshairs of MAGA.
Elon Musk Clarifies
Elon Musk wrote a clarification, which you can see below. He said, “I am referring to bringing in, via legal immigration, the top 0.1% of engineering talent as being essential for America to keep winning. This is like bringing in the Jokics or Wembys of the world to help your whole team, which is mostly Americans, win the NBA, thinking of America as a pro sports team that has been winning for a long time and wants to keep winning is the right mental construct.
However, many high-level workers in America have been laid off at Musk’s companies. Perhaps what he’s saying is he wants to bring in the geniuses no matter what country they come from. It is what H1-B was supposed to be and is not.
The Misused H1-B Visa Program
There is a massive misunderstanding about H1-B visas, and the people coming in on them are not elite — 1% of them being engineers and programmers. They are often mediocre or run-of-the-mill. They’re being brought in for cheap labor and not elite talent. That’s not every single one, but it sure is many of them.
I’ve had experience with that. So have others posting on X who say they had to train mediocre replacements to take their jobs. They were too often low quality and not too bright.
Vivek and Elon say they are not trying to replace American workers. Ramaswamy has said that the H1-B visa program is broken and should be replaced.
Ramaswamy didn’t phrase it well originally so what does he mean, really?
Bonchie Called It Nonsense
A frequent X poster and a writer for outlets like Red State took exception to the way Ramaswamy phrased it. Ramaswamy criticized American culture. Bonchie called it “nonsense.”
“America’s always celebrated the jock over the valedictorian and promoted the Zack and Slaters of society. Yet we built the bomb, went to the moon, and made the most advanced society in history,” Bonchie said.
Tech companies want cheap labor. It’s not about talent. Of course, that’s true.
He added, “Imagine thinking the 1930s to the 1970s were some wholesome time where society venerated being the math club champion and not smoking a pack a day while being as cool as humanly possible.”
MAGA Wants a Moratorium on H1-B visas
People on X want a moratorium on H1-B visas. Trump’s senior policy advisor for AI, Sriram Krishnan, an immigrant, wants to remove country cap limits on H1-B visas. Some believe he only wants Indians.
Ann Coulter Weighs In
“American workers can leave a company. Imported H1B workers can’t [easily do it]. Tech wants indentured servants, not “high-skilled” workers.”
We can’t find genius Americans out of 335,000,000 people?
There are over 330 million people in America. Surely, there must be enough among them to build your ultimate team? Why would you deny real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here?
— iamyesyouareno (@iamyesyouareno) December 25, 2024
The Musk clarification:
Look, I do understand your reasoning. And I also want us to get people to Mars as quickly as possible, and maybe this is the best way to achieve that. However, I think it’s clear that America has now decisively voted against immigration and in favor of mass deportations. Yes, we…
— iamyesyouareno (@iamyesyouareno) December 25, 2024
Bonchie:
Vivek is such an annoying little shit.
— Mr. John Daniels (@dan_themandan) December 26, 2024
American workers can leave a company. Imported H1B workers can’t. Tech wants indentured servants, not “high-skilled” workers. https://t.co/MRQc0zLjaT
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) December 26, 2024
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We have plenty of talent in the U.S. in the STEM fields. What Vivek and Elon want to do is hire workers for less, ones that won’t (or can’t) switch companies for better wages. Elon is full of it and is rightfully being called out. GOP better be careful with this or they will blow it before they even get started.
FACT: DEI programs and WOKE-JOKE LEFT-TARD RUN Universities have severely harmed US STEM education and personnel. For example: The American Physical Society – the main org for American physicists- is run by a RADICAL EXTREMIST LEFTIST hack at U pf Chicago, who has made DEI the #1 priority of the org. Similarly, just look at the what leftists have done to the formerly great popular science mag “Scientific American” –it now focuses on all 238 “genders” !!! This situation must be fixed at the core to retain American dominance in STEM –and importing foreigners is clearly not the FIX !!!
What we got here is a need to export some of our foreigners to somewhere else.
The H1B visa program should be completely scrapped.
Think of the logic of the program; It is a specifically designed program so that corporations can hire overseas workers and import them, because the workers have the skills the company supposedly needs. It’s a taxpayer funded program which corporations abuse to put Americans out of work and sub them with cheap foreign labor.
You know what else could bring in talent, without needing the government or putting Americans out of jobs? Lucritive help wanted offers. The companies could have paid ten dollars to put a help wanted ad in other countries, and see whom was committed and willing to follow legal migration process to come and claim that job. Instead they squander billions with bloated government programs to import people and then fire Americans instead. H1B1 Visa program; your tax dollars hard at work.
Musk and Ramaswamy have completely missed the mark on this one. What a blunder. http://www.numbersusa.com
Michelle Malkin did a number of shows on this topic. She talked with a great many, Disney for example, who brought in replacements for the IT department and the current employees had to “train” those replacements. Disney saved quite a bit doing this. At the time there was a website that showed which companies were involved.
One of the issues with these foreign nationals is their cultural differences. They simply do not have the capacity to appreciate the Constitutional principles this country was founded upon. India’s caste system doesn’t allow for such equality. You’ll find some, if not many, who are those that speak against our principles. This country will be a lot different when the ideology tilts towards their thinking. It has already begun. From my experience the Vietnamese are the most appreciative of this country.
A streamer showed a post about the Taiwanese company bringing in a large number of workers because Americans wouldn’t accept the conditions. It required a 12 hour workday and some type of emergency call. This was under another post so the entirety couldn’t be seen.
Breitbart has also been covering this, in depth, for years.
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2024/12/27/white-collar-migration-splits-trumps-maga/
Indeed, quite right. See my above post. H1B Visa program should be scrapped.
All the corporations need to do in order to attract talent is offer American wages to legal migrants whom are willing and committed to come here legally on their own dime with their own effort. No government assistance was ever needed in the first place. H1B has been a fraud from the beginning and the premise of the program has long since been proved irrational. H1B is perpetuated by a failed educational model which is only getting worse. Americans could choose to be better educated but unfortunately the fake news media and corporate industrial complex is stuck on DEI ESG and making everyone stupid as a result.
We can’t have equality of some people are more equal than others. America; the only place in the world where it’s not just legal, but legally required to discriminate against white and asian people. You know, the smart ones? Ending affirmative action and cutting down the warfare welfare state would give the job market the necessary boost, no H1B program would even be necessary.
I have a question related to the economy which ties into this. If the whole world is in debt, to whom are we indebted? If the US is paying more in interest on the debt, why do people not ask whom those interest payments go to? All wars are bankers wars.
I find it hard to believe that the USA, with a population of about 340 Million does not have enough brilliant people.
Well, we know Canada doesn’t, which is why they’re reaching into the India pool!
Zinger! Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Canada! Hold my beer eh.
Western nations all have enough brilliant people, Canada included.
Mass immigration only began about 50 years ago, but we – the west – had already invented almost everything without migrants, and we had already built the most successful civilization without migrants.
The printing press, the steam engine, the light bulb, the airplane, rockets, heart transplants, computers, we had all that before we imported millions of not very compatible people.
Historically, America has grown through both home grown and imported talent. With the current state of American schools, home grown talent is not being developed as it should, and to forbid well vetted imported talent is a form of treason or what some term democide.
We must not let the terrible practices of the three terms of Obama drive us into xenophobia.
Consider how Asians, for instance contribute a higher per centage of top IQ scores and top performing university students tan most other ethnic groups in the USA., but geniuses arise from all groups.
There are those buzzwords. It’s not xenophobic to say; Our tax dollars should not be spent subsidizing foreign nationals or institutions that profiteer from such an imbalanced system.
You may want to reconsider talking about respectable IQ scores, while you’re regurgitating marxist propaganda. Thanks