New Invented Term from the Fearmongers – “Immunity Debt”

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The CDC and various media are pushing the term “immunity debt.” They want you to know that as you return to normal life, you will get viruses and the flu. It looks like more fearmongering, but you decide.

The WSJ reports:

Doctors in France are calling it the immunity debt: When people avoided each other during the pandemic, they failed to build up the immunity against viruses that comes from normal contact.

As regular life resumes, society may find payments on that debt coming due, in the form of worse-than-normal viral disease outbreaks.

CNN Reports:

The measures that helped keep us safe from Covid-19 over the past 2½ years – lockdowns, physical distancing, wearing masks, washing hands – also helped limit the spread of other viruses. As people return to school and work and take off their masks, those viruses, including respiratory syncytial virus and flu, are back in full force.

That “immunity gap” from the last few years is probably behind the “unprecedented” early surge in RSV infections this year, scientists say – and it has thrown other seasonal respiratory viruses out of whack around the world.

“As long as we’ve had a record of RSV and other respiratory diseases in the United States, there have been these very regular patterns of outbreaks,” said Rachel Baker,an epidemiologist and assistant professor at Brown University.

Dr. Panda shared the information with this tweet:

Dr. Panda writes:

If you haven’t heard here is how they define ‘Immunity Debt’:

Immunity debt is the idea that the body has not been in contact with viruses because of pandemic prevention measures such as masking, social distancing, etc. As a result the body is more vulnerable to common bacterial and viral infections, like influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and chicken pox. Our immune defenses are less effective in responding to bacterial attacks after a long period of inactivity. It’s a bit like an athlete who has been inactive for a long time and suddenly must compete for a medal at the Olympics.

However, Immunity debt is completely made up. It’s not taught in medical school, it’s not used in medical literature or scientific papers, pre-2021 anyway.

Some people are trying to say it’s not an invented term. Dr. Panda says it’s not true and explains:

The immune system does not lie dormant and weaken. In fact, our immune system is working day and night. It’s patrolling our bodies all of the time. Not only dealing with infectious diseases (like viruses and bacteria) but seeking and destroying cancer cells before they turn into a tumor. They also recognize and neutralize harmful substances from the environment.

Our bodies are constantly exposed to (and live with) trillions of viruses, bacteria and fungi. Our immune system is constantly interacting with these microorganisms. The immune system’s job is to figure out which ones are good (the ones living in our microbiome, primarily our gut) and which ones are bad. And because of the acquired portion of your immune system most germs you’ve came into contact with before don’t make you sick.

So Immunity Debt is not a real thing. Fake. Made Up. Not based in Science. I have been unable to find any evidence this is real. Our immune systems were not ‘denied’ anything by mitigation measures (masks, standing 6 feet apart, working from home, etc). Just go into your bathroom and you’ll encounter trillions of bacteria or eat yogurt or cheese and you’ll be consuming bacteria!

Your immune system was not deprived & we’re not more susceptible to infections because of ‘immune debt.’

Believe whatever you want, but we’re sticking with the common sense doctor, Dr. Panda as opposed to the fearmongers.


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GuvGeek
GuvGeek
2 years ago

Actually, this general concept has been around for a long time and even 60 years ago was associated with Shingles. It is thought by some doctors, mostly Holistic Doctors, that avoiding your Children and Grandchildren who have Chicken Pox can lead to Shingles in old age. Basically, coming into contact with Chicken Pox is a booster to your immune system by exposing you to slight variations in the virus on a regular basis. Without exposure for many, many years your immune system doesn’t get the updates or tends to forget exactly what the virus looked like chemically. It doesn’t seem like your immune system has perfect memory.

This concept may explain why some people get Covid-19 more than once, especially if they had the vaccine. The vaccine is extremely targeted.and your body develops immunity only for the specific target and may even be reprogrammed to the “shot”. When you come in contact with a variant, your body takes longer to realize it’s a New Version of Covid-19 allowing you to get sick before you create anti-bodies for the New Variant. This also seems true for the seasonal Flu Vaccine which is only a guess as to how the Flu mutated from last year.

One thing I learned in Pre-Med, and working for a Med School for 6 years is that the body is complex, every body is different, and if you have a doctor who thinks he has this stuff down pat – it’s time to find a new Doctor!

In my case, I had Covid-19 very early on, overseas, before the March 2020 lock down. It was similar to a bad hang over. If I had it a second time it was too mild to notice. I tried to stay in normal contact with the World, but everyone acted like Covid-19 was the Black Plague. In June of 2021, I contracted Walking Pneumonia. Those Cloth Mask you wore all day become a Petri Dish for germs. Walking Pneumonia comes from the bacteria called Mycoplasma pneumoniae. Personally, I think the Masks caused more illness than they prevented. My doctor had me start using single use disposable mask.

The idea that your immune system is constantly effective if you get your vaccinations is crap. Poor Diet, Lack of Rest, Vitamin Deficiency (especially Vitamin D and C), etc. all have an effect on your Immune System. If today’s Lab Rat Vaccine Ideology was so good then why do we seem to see more illness today and a higher morality rate overall? Today’s modern Medicine has a lot of “Junk Science” from the Lab which doesn’t explain what is easily observable in the Real World.

The Medical Profession is still pushing the “shot” when it is clear there are serious problems with it! The Main Stream Medical Profession in America no longer has any credibility! Doctors in France are making a lot more sense.

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Ronnie
Ronnie
2 years ago
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Amen!