Putin Outlines the Conditions for a Ceasefire

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Putin outlined his plans for a ceasefire. He demands Ukraine withdraw troops from Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporizhia, and Luhansk. They must formally abolish plans to join NATO.

It doesn’t sound hopeful. I don’t know if this is reasonable, but Zelensky won’t accept it. He still thinks he can get Crimea back, and the only way to do that is to get NATO involved. That cannot happen.

This is Putin’s first public statement. To me, it’s boring, and long-winded, but you decide.

Why did John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and several Democrats tell Ukrainians they could defeat Russia? Were they counting on getting NATO into the war?


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Anonymous
Anonymous
2 months ago

Sounds reasonable…considering the history and circumstances of this ‘war’…Pity Saddam did not still have the WMD’s the US supplied him with in his war with Iran…he could have used them in self defence…

Greg
Greg
2 months ago

Not so fast: Zelensky isn’t willing to honor a ceasefire. Assumes he means all of the Donbass And Crimea.

https://x.com/DDG43USN/status/1899935125967642988

The Prisoner
The Prisoner
2 months ago

There would be WW3 before Russia would give up Crimea. Zelensky’s role is to promote WW3. He has stated emphatically many times he wants to destroy Russia with nuclear weapons.

Trump is having difficulty, but in the end Ukraine concedes or is destroyed. It’s up to Ukrainians to handle getting rid of Zelensky. It’s in our interest to let Ukraine collapse. Stopping WW3 is more important than compassion for the Ukrainians. If the power structure in Ukraine will not handle this, then let them all be killed.

Greg
Greg
2 months ago

Those three Senators, Graham, McCain and Klobuchar made it sound like Russia had invaded Ukraine back in 2016, when in fact the Azov and Right Sector were mobilized against any and all Russian speaking Ukrainians. At that time these Senators were promoting an on-going civil war in Ukraine.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

McCain was a warmongerer psycho if there ever was one. He was nut’s!.

Last edited 2 months ago by Anonymous
The Prisoner
The Prisoner
2 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous

McCain had a horrible military career. Then later he played tough guy patriot. He used his fake heroism to get far in politics and to promote more wars.

The Prisoner
The Prisoner
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

You got the withdrawal issue correct.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 months ago

So far Putin’s proposal is solid, no holes. Zelensky’s plan however is a juxtaposed to it’s self plan, that leaves the war ongoing. Gibberish!. I noticed that right off the bat when reading Zelensky’s proposed peace plan.

The Prisoner
The Prisoner
2 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Trump knew that Zelensky would fail us again. He has to be removed. There will be more suffering before that happens.

Zelensky’s plan will be rejected by Trump, meaning no more aid.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 months ago
Reply to  The Prisoner

He’s about as relevant as a pimple on someones ass at this point. Only thing he can do at this juncture that would be of any use, is if he were to work with Putin and Trump on a Truce.

Other that he’s irrelevant, he’s not been acting on own his accord nor governing for his country, he’s been working for the cabal problem makers from the onset, is his terminal problem.

Last edited 2 months ago by Anonymous