Rattled European leaders said Sunday they were “doubling down” on supporting Ukraine and boosting military aid following the televised Oval Office blowup between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, WaPo reports.
Keir Starmer and Vlad Zelensky embraced twice yesterday as they confirmed their mutual admiration.
At the start of Sunday’s session, which Starmer described as a “once-in-a-generation moment” for European security, they sat side by side during the talks.
Grandstanding
What is really ironic about this is that NATO is meeting without the US. How they expect to get security like that, we cannot say. The only member that can defend itself is Turkey, and they’re unreliable. The EU is totally dependent on the US, and so is Ukraine. EU has given hardly anything in terms of cash and weapons in comparison to what the US has given. The US is NATO.
EU is grandstanding after Ukrainian president Zelensky made a vigorous attempt to humiliate Donald Trump, JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and Michael Waltz. Zelensky had previously met with Democrats who gave him his marching orders.
The London gathering, which included the leaders of France, Germany, Canada and other nations, did not produce a formal statement. But participants agreed to sustain or boost military aid flowing to Ukraine, Starmer told reporters afterward, and to insist that Kyiv be directly involved in any negotiations with Moscow to end the war, reports WaPo.
If they want to go it alone and keep the killing going, there’s probably not much we can do. However, their goal is probably not that; rather, they are trying to bully the US into going along with their plan. Now we have to wait and see what the plan is. Perhaps they’ll come up with something reasonable. Unfortunately, given this is a globalist group that’s not likely.
The Washington Post continues. Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron, both of whom also met with Trump last week, were seeking to shape a diplomatic cleanup of U.S.-Ukrainian relations, Starmer said. The two and “possibly one or two others” would act as mediators between Washington and Kyiv, working on a ceasefire plan acceptable to Ukraine and Europe that they would present to Trump.
Troops on the Ground in Perpetuity
Macron, in comments to France’s Le Figaro on Sunday, suggested a potential one-month “truce in the air, at sea and on energy infrastructure” which could be paired with negotiations if it holds, and followed by a potential European troop deployment in the event of a settlement.
NATO Troops on the ground in Ukraine is obviously not a peace plan that Russia will accept. France isn’t looking for peace.
Troops on the ground by any NATO member could invoke Article 5 if they feel they are attacked. Article 5 requires the US and all member nations to protect the injured member. What they seem to want to do is treat Ukraine as if it were a member of NATO and give it the same guarantees.
Americans need to understand that this means NATO would be in Ukraine in perpetuity. It makes us an intimate partner with a nation that has fought with Russia for centuries. The hatred between these countries is intense and it could blow up at any moment. We would be living in constant threat of World War 3. I do believe – and you may disagree – that if this comes about, the US must pull out of NATO. We cannot put ourselves in that position. We cannot let our children die the way this Ukrainian leader has let Ukrainian children die.
Ursula von der Leyen claimed the meeting was pre-planned before the blow up. However, the meeting that was planned was not this meeting.
Can’t wait to see what the globalists come up with.
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Boots on the ground? We’re talking about the French here. Don’t they mean ballet slippers.
They ARE taking ‘brinkmanship’ to the ‘edge’…it may well backfire…
Defund NATO. Why do we continue to support arrogant people who hate us?
Consider how it all went in the beginning. Ukraine was NATO supplied and trained for years. When the fighting started we saw that NATO training had very little benefit. Ukraine suffered massive losses from the outset. Obviously the UK and France didn’t learn the lesson when fighting against Russia. The US and NATO have only succeeded with the support of massive air power.
What has garnered little discussion if the soft power of the US deployed in Ukraine. The US has many assets such as ISR, satellites, BMS (Battlefield Management Systems) and so many others yet Ukraine hasn’t been able to regain one acre of territory that was lost. The US can see everything, but that has been little help in the fighting. So, does the UK and France, and the EU, really think they have any chance without all those assets.
Oh, and after Russia destroyed the cargo ship in Odessa, British reports said this: “This is so unsportsmanlike of Putin”. What will they say when fighting toe to toe with the Russians.
Sounds like the UK is also playing games with a one-month ceasefire. It is to include everything but ground forces. This is suppose to be a “test” for Putin to see if he’s serious. Who in their right mind would agree to such conditions. It would be funny if Putin’s response would be heavy attacks on electrical systems and other assets.
I’m almost willing to bet that there’s a constitutional framework/guideline in place that one must uphold to be considered as a member of NATO. It would only make sense that would have been included in the framework of the original agreement. At any rate they’ve been caught dead to rights using NATO resources inappropriately.