Nikki Haley Face-Plants While Citing the Causes of the Civil War

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A gentleman in the audience asked Nikki Haley what she thought the causes of the Civil War were. She left out slavery.

“I think the cause of the civil war was basically how government was going to run,” said Haley. “The freedoms and what people could and couldn’t do.”

“I think it always comes down to the role of government and what the rights of the people are.

‘And I will always stand by the fact that I think government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people.”

Yikes! What was that? And the donors want us to think she’s soaring in the polls? People? What people, Haley?

She didn’t mention slavery. States’ rights and territorial expansion were about slavery as a business. Keeping the Union together was about slavery.

Haley blathered a Kamala-level word salad.

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“They [the government] don’t need to tell you what you can and can’t do; they don’t need to be a part of your life; they need to make sure that you have freedom; we need to have capitalism; we need to have economic freedom; we need to make sure that we do all those things so that individuals have the liberties. So that they can have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom to do or be anything they want to be without government getting in the way.”

The gentleman then said, “Thank you. In the year 2023, it’s astonishing to me that you answer that question without mentioning the word ‘slavery.’”

Haley then said, “What do you want me to say about slavery?”

He concluded, “No, you’ve answered my question. Thank you.”

She must be nowhere near the White House.


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SmackEm
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1 month ago

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In a Friday, June 19, 2015 file photo, the Confederate flag flies near the South Carolina Statehouse, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Rainier Ehrhardt, File)
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By Roger K. Broxton of Andalusia, president of the Confederate Heritage Fund

Abraham Lincoln repeatedly stated his war was caused by taxes only, and not by slavery, at all.

“My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861).” reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln’s First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861.

“I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so,” Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year.

There is no proof of Lincoln ever declaring the war was fought to abolish slavery, and without such an official statement, the war-over-slavery teaching remains a complete lie and offensive hate speech that divides Americans, as is being done now by the media and politicians regarding the Confederate flag in South Carolina.

Slavery was NOT abolished; just the name was changed to sharecropper with over 5 million Southern whites and 3 million Southern blacks working on land stolen by Wall Street bankers.

White, black, Indian, Hispanic, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Confederates valiantly stood as one in thousands of battles on land and sea. Afterwards, they attended Confederate Veterans’ reunions together and received pensions from Southern States.

Photos of black Confederate veterans may be seen in Alabama’s Archives in Scrapbook – 41st Reunion of United Confederate Veterans, Montgomery, June 2,3,4 and 5, 1931.”

Lincoln did not claim slavery was a reason even in his Emancipation Proclamations on Sept. 22, 1862, and Jan. 1, 1863. Moreover, Lincoln’s proclamations exempted a million slaves under his control from being freed (including General U.S. Grant’s four slaves) and offered the South three months to return to the Union (pay 40 percent sales tax) and keep their slaves. None did. Lincoln affirmed his only reason for issuing was: “as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said (tax) rebellion.”

Mrs. Grant wrote in her personal memoirs: “We rented our pretty little home (in St. Louis) and hired out our four servants to persons whom we knew and who promised to be kind to them. Eliza, Dan, Julia and John belonged to me. When I visited the General during the War, I nearly always had Julia with me as nurse.”

Lincoln declared war to collect taxes in his two presidential war proclamations against the Confederate States, on April 15 and 19th, 1861: “Whereas an insurrection against the Government of the United States has broken out and the laws of the United States for the collection of the revenue cannot be effectually executed therein.”

On Dec. 25, 1860, South Carolina declared unfair taxes to be a cause of secession: “The people of the Southern States are not only taxed for the benefit of the Northern States, but after the taxes are collected, three-fourths (75%) of them are expended at the North (to subsidize Wall Street industries that elected Lincoln).” (Paragraphs 5-8)

It was on April 8, 1861, that Lincoln, alone, started the war by a surprise attack on Charleston Harbor with a fleet of warships, led by the USS Harriet Lane, to occupy Fort Sumter, a Federal tax collection fort in the territorial waters of South Carolina and then invaded Virginia.

On April 29, 1861, President Jefferson Davis described the South’s response of self-defense in his Message To the Confederate States Congress: “I directed a proposal to be made to the commander of Fort Sumter that we would abstain from directing our fire on Fort Sumter if he would promise not to open fire on our forces unless first attacked. This proposal was refused.” (Paragraphs 8-9)

The only reason the South ever gave for fighting was in self-defense of the voluntary Union of independent States, as symbolized then by the U.S. Flag.

Secession (withdrawal from a voluntary union) and war are two very different events.

Mad Celt
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Mad Celt
1 month ago

Despite her other faults Haley was correct this time.

Franklin
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Franklin
1 month ago

Too many still subscribe to the 150+ yr old propaganda of slavery being the 1 & only issue. Sad to say, john-brown terrorist/zealots are still alive and well. Wake the hll up to whats happening…Again.

Peter B. Prange
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Peter B. Prange
1 month ago
Reply to  Franklin

Partially true. The issues were complex, but as M. Dowling points out the issue of slavery was an intricate part of most of the issues. Study the pre-war compromises including a balance of slave and non-slave states.

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1 month ago

Yeah that an egomaniac Lincoln’s lust for blood. No other nation ever fought a war to end slavery.

Also the Constitution was ratified only when it was guaranteed that any state could leave the union for any reason at any time, at any time, whenever. Three states demanded this and all 13 supported this demanded.

Lincoln knew this and lied and waged war being the craven ghoul he was.