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DC Plane Crash: The Helicopter Didn’t Flinch – Updated

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Retired Brigadier General Blaine Holt was on Cats and Cosby this afternoon to discuss the DC plane and helicopter collision last Wednesday. His comments were chilling. General Holt said he’d simplify it. The helicopter didn’t flinch as it dove into the plane. The plane did nothing wrong.

Why didn’t they flinch? If they had night goggles, they would be easy to pull down, and the pilots on the helicopter would have seen the plane. The air traffic controller contacted the helicopter.

General Holt wondered if the helicopter pilots were incapacitated in some way. He sees the helicopter as the problem.

A current NTSB report says the jet’s crew may have seen the helicopter one second before impact and attempted to pitch up. It was too late, as stated in the video below.

Charelle Hubbard reported that the jet may have seen the helicopter. “Preliminary findings indicate the jet’s crew may have seen the Black Hawk prior to the collision. They pitched the nose up towards the sky most likely, but it means they saw it just a second before impact. You cannot move out of the way that fast.”

The CNN-obtained video:

General Holt said something similar on Newsmax on Thursday. He said there have been procedures since 9/11 that should have averted this crash. The accident doesn’t make any sense to him as a pilot. The NTSB might find the pilot of the helicopter more responsible than this pilot does.

Update

This video points to another possibility. While he believes the pilot made an error, he sees the core problem as the challenging route for that runway. He thinks it is too much to ask of a military helicopter pilot.

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  1. This was death by suicide. The pilot was a transgender; Trump rips into DEI as soon as he wins the election. Why did they scrub his/hers/they Facebook? Because the pilot made disparaging remarks about Trumps DEI policy. Gays and transgender have a much higher risk of suicide and depression. The pilot might have forseen and forcible exit from the military and took it to heart. Look at the path of the helicopter, did not move an inch and just flew it straight into the plan. That is my theory.

  2. It is very suspicious that the 3 crew with a clear view of the plane did not react.

    It is also suspicious that the crash happened just after Trump started cutting down agency spending.

    We would need all the recordings of communications with the copter to know more.

  3. Who can explain why the helicopter was seen taking off from a Saudi’s home in McLean? AND, that is was caring he PAT call sign, indicating a person of high diplomatic importance on board?? (as reported by Times World News)

  4. The rules say that helicopter should have had four crew. The two crew in the back are at windows on each side looking out. Visibility from the pilot’s seat on a Blackhawk is limited, hence, the rule. Why did the general not mention the deviation from the rules? Still friends with those responsible and easier to heap the blame entirely on dead people. Whomever assigned the trainor for this flight needs to be reprimanded because he let the flight stray from intended course and to double the altitude allowed in that area. Assigning incompetent people in a mission-critical role is actionable.

    • It seems that the General missed important things. But he did identify the suspicious actions, or lack of actions, in the copter.

  5. Thats what happens when you play frogger at night on a busy airline runway! I bet the Helicopter Pilots never saw it coming! You people do understand that the Helicopter technology is so sad that the crew chief has to stick his backside out of the chopper to scan for traffic; because the pilot is Blind. I hope you`d consider this; because I feel sorry for the victims of this tragic lack of oversight by management.

      • Go Ask Any Military Helicopter Pilot! Do you think commercial aircraft pilots can see? They`re Mostly Blind Too! Go do some research on how many planes flew into Mountains; because the pilots were blind. No Radar. Blind. They get off Track, Lost on Fog, or Have a Problem Identifying Ground Terrain from their 1800s technology Charts and BOOOM. Happens more than people know.

        Military Helicopters “rely on Crew” to Stick their Backsides out and Look for Traffic. Crew! Perhaps, the Crew, were Partying all Night and are not held to the Same Scrutiny as Pilots, CREW! Ask any US Military Helicopter Crewmember.

        Relying on ATC is to appease shareholders. Radar costs money, so Most Military and Commercial pilots fly Blind. People die for Lack of Knowledge, So, Do the Research and Learn Something!

    • There’s a lot to unpack here. The event continues to be under federal investigation. It is still an active crime scene. As with ANY other crime scene, those under investigation have their social media pages go dark.
      While I do believe there is a “there, lthere”, I don’t believe that it’s being hidden, rather, it’s still being understood. It’s not even 24 hrs since the the fuselage and the remaining passengers were extracted from the water.

      • As far as I know the names and pictures of the two men with her in the helicopter were released very quickly. the next morning we already knew who those men were.

        It took a few days before they confirmed there was a female onboard, it took a few days for them to release her name.

        that is why people began wondering if it was a trans,

        So why hide her name, hide that she was woman for like 3 days while them men’S name were published within hours ?

        They are hiding something.

        If she was gay then odds are super high they – the DEI cult of the Biden administration – lowered the bar for her, so they could tell the world she was the first lesbian military helicopter pilot.

        She was probably not very good at it, but to the DEI cult that did not matter.

        We may never know the truth

        but it is strange how they hid her identity for about 3 or 4 days but the men’s were known immediately

        • It must be damning evidence, to have hidden her identity for days.
          And I mean something way worse than being gay!

          • Just as democrats and the media were doing their best to hide Kamala’s incompetence but they let her burn something $2 Billion during her campaign.

            I think that female helicopter pilot was not very qualified ( I am not saying all women are bad pilots ) but the Biden administration so badly wanted to see females and gays in high positions that they kept training her hoping one day she would be better and hoping even more that this would be a huge victory for the woke left and democrats.

            Claudine Gay had plagiarized a bug chunk of her work and they made her President of Harvard

            In California Mayor Bass and that other woman were spending more money on DEI and whatever other woke thing than on firefighting equipment and on making sure there was water.

            Democrats do not care how incompetent someone is or what damage they may cause, or even if someone dies.

            They only care about their DEI ideology.

    • Who Cares!
      What I want to know is why the Airspace was even open to Helicopters, considering they are largely blind, and have to rely on Crew to Hang their Backsides out of the Chopper “to Hopefully Spot” Incoming Traffic! Everyones too cheap to afford the Poor Pilots Proper Radar and without it they`re Blind Mice totally Reliant upon ATC and a Blind Nightime game of Frogger crossing the runway before becoming splat by the incoming jet! Bad Management is to Blame.

      • I admit I don t know enough about what happened, but with the little I know it looks to me like either that female pilot or someone else was not very competent, made the wrong decisions.

        With all the modern technology that detects other flying objects and warns the crew, what happened ? Did they decide to ignore those devices warning them ?
        Were some of them so incompetent they misread the warnings ?

        I don t know enough but I am still leaning towards DEI being part of why that happened.

        • TACS or their collision avoidance system, does not work under 1,000-ft., so it was useless. I heard some Commercial Pilot explain this on CNN. Without a proper Radar it is Bad for All Pilots.

          DEI , do you really think theyre going to let someone fly a Multi-Million-dollar Helicopter without passing all the proper checks/tests? Instructors are Held Accountable too! Id quit before passing someone on a DUI push! I do not think things have gotten that bad. DEI may get into the Training program; but “they`ll flunk out” and never obtain license. Some may Pass and Earn the Pilot Title. You cannot assume all Gays are Stupid. Truthfully, the ones I knew were a-lot smarter than Average. Things have always been like this, as I recall all the people who got FREE GOVERNMENT EDUCATION, ( Race Preference) then flunked out! Whites (like me) had to Pay! So .. I am no Fan of DEI or Race Discrimination!

          I think the ATC Management should have changed procedure, to not allow Helicopters anywhere near that conjested airspace, especially at night. The ATC was short Staffed. Accidents happen when Staff is short and overworked. Your eyes play tricks on you watching that torture of a Radar Screen all day. I hear the latest, the ATC did not tell the Helicopter that there were 2, Jets in Route.

          Airport Management is to blame. I would not hold the ATC staff ( Shorted) or the Pilots accountable. The Military should have known better too! You do not play Frogger with 737s at night. Nothing should have been allowed Near those Runways! I still cannot get over the need for crew to serve as eyes for the Pilot on Military Helicopters.

          And, they probabally should close the airport; because the fools shut down lots of airspace to protect the capitol building after 9/11. So, you could say, the Government caused this Wreck, and it had nothing to do with Trump.

          • ” …  You cannot assume all Gays are Stupid.  …”

            That is something I never said.

            I have no idea how you came up with that.

          • Yes I do believe they – woke left democrats – would and have let under qualified people operate sophisticated expensive equipment, machinery and what have you…..

            Who did they put in charge of nuclear waste? a man who stole luggage at airport so he could wear the clothes of unknown women…..

            Who did they put in charge of Harvard one of the best university on the planet ? A women who plagiariez most of her ” work” but hey she was female and black and that was all that mattered to the woke leftards !…..

            Buttigieg who could not tell a coffee machine from a charging station, who was mind boglingly incompetent was in charge of building hundreds or thousands of charging stations, he was given billions of dollars, he stayed home for months taking of his baby, and build 7 charging stations, not 700, not 70, 7…..

            Karen Bass and that other woman, a hispanic, were put in charge in California because they are female and non-white, both are low iq ignorant idiots who redirected funds to DEI and illegals and did not use the money for firefighting equipment, they did not even make sure there was enough water, how many houses burned and how many people died ?…..

            yes definitely under qualified DEIs are right now as I m typing piloting helicopters and airplanes, or whatever thing they are not qualified to be in control of because democrats placed them there in the name of DEI….

            Democrats do not care how many billions of dollars are lost because of the incompetence of DEIs

            Democrats do not care how many people die because of the incompetence of DEIs

            This is -or was- a real problem.

            and here is a HUGE clue I am right,

            in the last few weeks army recruitment has reached a high not seen in 15 years…why ? because those people know that now that Trump is in charge DEI IS GONE.

            DEI was so destructive in so many ways that no one wanted to join the army !!!!

  6. Somethings we may never know, but there will always be a stench of Biden Adm9onstrations failures attached to this terrible tragedy.

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