Caveat: This report comes from mainstream news, and could include false reporting.
Secretary Rubio took out two provisions in the Ukraine-Russia peace deal. The provisions were the two that Russia cared most about. They are going to reject the deal.
The Russian Wish List?
Lawmakers critical of President Donald Trump’s approach to ending the Russia-Ukraine war said Saturday they spoke with Secretary of State Marco Rubio who told them that the Trump peace plan is a “wish list” of the Russians and not the actual proposal offering Washington’s positions.
A State Department spokesperson denied their account, calling it “blatantly false.”
Rubio himself then took the extraordinary step of suggesting online that the senators were mistaken. They then said he was their source for the information. Rubio followed up by saying DC came up with the proposal.
The Changes to the Peace Plan
Red lines for Russia in the negotiations include the move reported earlier by The Washington Post to, for now, put aside Moscow’s demand that Ukraine withdraw from territory in the eastern Donbas region that Russia has not yet conquered. Russia would also reject the call for Ukraine’s NATO aspirations to be decided based on NATO’s rules that would nix the outright veto on membership from the earlier draft.
By Sunday night, Mr. Rubio took back control of the negotiations, the NY Times reported.
He excised sections that would forever bar Ukraine from joining NATO and that banned NATO member states from forming a security force inside Ukraine that would deter Russia from launching a new invasion.
Mr. Rubio explained that items involving Europe and NATO are part of a separate track and involves input from them.
Rubio also removed the section ceding 15% of Donbas to Russia.
Obviously, no one would expect the Russians to accept this deal. The 15% of territory they don’t have will soon be lost as they march through Ukraine. As for NATO, that’s one of the reasons for the invasion in the first place.
These provisions are the two Russia felt were non-negotiable.
The Times then said Russia has shown no signs of engaging in a cease-fire. However, Russia has been clear that they would not cease fire unless there was a deal.
Putin can’t be trusted.
Anyone paying attention knew this wasn’t going anywhere. Who can trust Trump?
More people do than trust the media or the radical elements of the Democrat party.
He’s just another mental case from the left.
You’re a brainwashed leftist idiot so, what else is new ??
glory hole slave of Rev 3:9 continuing the christian slav genocide at the behest of his masters…only fools are surprised
Trump is a big picture dealer, and wants to take back Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela from foreign influence (return to Monroe Doctrine). That’s a great idea, to leave Ukraine for the EU to deal with. They wanted Ukraine for themselves to compete in global trade (against us) better. So let them employ their unemployed masses and go fight for it. Then we can trade with arms sales too.
miga fake maga trump works for the same masters….if conservatives would beat his azz to keep his word, he might actually do some good, but as it is, they bark like trained seals as he betrays the usa and all of christendom
Rubio is another RINO neocon. We knew he was bad the moment he entered congress, when he reversed himself and supported the mass amnesty bill.
Rubio gets high praise in conservative circles, for doing nothing. All he does is travel around and get in front of cameras to campaign for president. Trump has others making deals on foreign policy, not Rubio.
Rubio and Z are trying to trap Trump into an agreement which is not final. Z wants to fly in and sign it immediately.
Come on people, nothing good will ever come from Rubio and Z.
The US is the only entity protracting this war. Without the US help, it would have ended long ago.
but how else can the world governments launder their taxpayers money to enrich the leaders?
Did anyone ever ask what the people wanted? Not that maniac Zelensky and his ilk.
Actually, yes. As population maps will show, the territories Russia is taking are mostly populated by Russians. That is a fact. I assume the reason so many Russians would be living in Ukraine is a consequence of an arbitrary boundary drawn up after the fall of the Soviet Union that left these people separated from their motherland. I read that the citizens in these territories had already voted to be returned to being part of Russia, but rather than allow it, Ukraine signed an agreement to leave these territories to some form of neutrality and a level of self-governance. Then Ukraine broke the agreement, and Russians in Ukraine had been asking for years for Russia to help.
The provoking of the war was Ukraine’s doomed demand to join NATO, putting enemy troops, tanks, and missiles on Russia’s borders. That was, naturally, too great a national security risk, and the forces that provoked the war had to know it. In the first year of the war, an agreement of no NATO and honoring the neutrality agreement in the Russian-speaker’s portions of Ukraine would have been acceptable to Russia for a ceasefire. But arrogant Zelensky would not, because the war was always a money laundering scheme for the BOZOs (Biden, Obama, Zelensky & Operatives, with “Operatives” including the UN, EU, NATO, US defense contractors, and Washington and Ukrainian politicians getting kickbacks).
While the instigators got richer by refusing reasonable concessions, Russia was bleeding billions in money and Russian lives on the battlefield, but also conquering territory….more and more as the war drug on. Today, Russia has almost retaken the territories occupied by Russian speakers, and would be insane to not complete the rescue of its people. Keeping what Russia conquers is the only reasonable compensation for that great expense of this war and the broken agreement to let those territories remain neutral. Only a sliver is left of the Donbas territory, and Russia’s stance to be given the rest of Donbas or wait until they take it by force is a reasonable one.
After the BOZO’s provoking and prolonging of this war at great expense to Russia and after freezing and stealing Russian assets, there is zero reason Russia should agree to paying a cent of restoring Ukraine…the far greater culprit between the two. The most damaged areas of Ukraine will be the territories retaken, which will require Russia to restore. Ukraine and the BOZOs can fix their own mess. America has no dog in this fight and no reason to be funding anything and certainly no troops should be there. But I would be OK with US troops stationed in Hungary or Poland as on standby for peace preservation. But the EU should pay for their presence…not America.
“The provoking of the war was Ukraine’s doomed demand to join NATO, putting enemy troops, tanks, and missiles on Russia’s borders. That was, naturally, too great a national security risk, and the forces that provoked the war had to know it.”
Anyone stating that must acknowledge that if true, the russians made a HUGE mistake (4+ years of death and war, for what?) or that the reason stated is absolutely false.
Putin wants empire, putin wants the Soviet empire, and perceiving weakness he went after Ukraine. A failure, and getting greater every day.
And I wouldn’t send a thin dime to the corrupt Ukraine run and controlled by corrupt agents of the CCP in America.
Ukraine is a 3rd world country, 1/5 the size of russia and all the russian have to do is drive to their border, and yet, FOUR long years of death and destruction. The russians are incompetent conscripts led by drunks, and that is a fact.
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