The Bucha Genocide Is Not Confirmed

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The Bucha genocide should not be taken at face value at this time. It desperately needs investigation. The US media, or any legacy media we know of, has not confirmed the claim. CBS News and other networks have merely taken the claims by the Ukrainians and published or televised them as if they were proven facts.

The problem at the bottom of this is Ukraine has pushed numerous lies and endless propaganda to lure the West into a full-scale war with Russia. In fact, some US media are outwardly calling for war.

Do you trust people who want us to go to war and one which could lead to World War III and nuclear confrontation?

IT’S NOT CONFIRMED
Reuters reported that the Pentagon cannot independently confirm atrocities in Ukraine’s Bucha, according to an official.

The U.S. military is not in a position to independently confirm Ukrainian accounts of atrocities by Russian forces against civilians in the town of Bucha, but has no reason to dispute the accounts either, a senior U.S. defense official said on Monday.

“We’re seeing the same imagery that you are. We have no reason whatsoever to refute the Ukrainian claims about these atrocities — clearly, deeply, deeply troubling,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

We can’t independently and single handedly confirm that, but we’re also not in any position to refute those claims.”

The statement is ridiculous. Are they even looking and trying to figure it out?

The New York Times cannot confirm either. The Times quoted an expert who noted that there are questions not yet answered:

Journalists from The New York Times, The Associated Press and other international news outlets arriving in Bucha and nearby towns have also filmed and photographed bodies in civilian clothes scattered in the streets and at least nine lying together in a yard. In several cases, hands were bound behind the back.

The bodies of 410 people who appeared to have been civilians have been recovered from the Kyiv region, Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Iryna Venediktova, said in a Facebook post on Sunday. The Times was not able to independently verify that figure…

Who executed them and bound them. Are they Ukrainians?

…War crimes cases can be brought before the International Criminal Court in The Hague, but successful prosecution is a steep climb, experts say.

“It would likely be difficult to prove in court,’’ said David Scheffer, an international law expert. “The circumstances are unknown. Who executed them. Who bound their hands. This would require a very difficult and detailed investigation.’’…

…Russia’s Defense Ministry on Sunday rejected all accusations that its troops had committed atrocities in Bucha, saying that “not a single” civilian had been injured while the town was under Russian control. It said pictures and video footage from the area had been “staged by the Ukrainian government.”

Russia has denied the accusations and said that people were free to roam around and leave if they wanted to leave. They said the lie, if it is a lie, is a “provocation.”

Journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted: In stark contrast to the Twitter experts eager to start WW3 by emotionally demanding that the US go to war with Russia due to horrifying yet context-and-evidence-free photos and videos posted by Ukrainian officials, the NYT commendably applies skepticism.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken is still doing everything he can to stir the pot. Even as his own Pentagon can’t confirm the atrocities, he acts as if it is proven. This is reckless:

IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY
Photos are emerging, and the one below is of a man with a white armband. The Russians wear white and Ukrainians wear yellow or blue.

However, Ukrainians now say they wear white armbands in some cities.

UKRAINIAN BLOGGER DENIES THE CLAIMS

There is no point getting into the weeds here and posting all the photos and videos. We just don’t know the truth. However, the information from the blogger below is interesting.

There are eyewitness accounts and videos/photos without context.

Many of the videos and photos are contradictory or impossible to confirm. The one thread that seemed most interesting was of a Ukrainian blogger, who is pro-Ukraine, expressing doubts. He was present during the occupation and said no one was tortured or killed. If you go through his thread, you will find his information backing it up.


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The Prisoner
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The Prisoner
1 year ago

Notice that this “massacre”, more likely a faked event, based on the widespread proven disinformation we have seen this entire war, comes just after what appears to be proven atrocities by the Ukrainians. I say the Ukrainian atrocities are proven because the videos have not been refuted and some Ukrainian officers were recorded calling for brutal treatment of Russian soldiers.