Boeing Believes Flight MH370 Is In Taliban Territory in Pakistan – Updates

All updates have been moved to the end of the article, including a stunning interview with Gen. McInerney

A LIGNET analyst (Langley Intelligence Network Group) is reporting that they received information from a source at Boeing, the plane’s manufacturer, that the plane is in Taliban territory in Pakistan.

Boeing has not commented.

The UK paper, The Independent, said that Malaysia is reportedly investigating a theory that flight MH370 could have slipped under Pakistani radars and landed at a Taliban base close to the Afghan border.

Path to Pakistan

Path it would have traveled to Pakistan

The plane was programmed ahead of time, according to the NY Times which released the information last evening on The Kelly File.

One aviation expert, Michael Boyd, appearing on The Kelly File last evening, said he is “worried about the jet finding us.”

Israel has tightened their airport security because they are concerned, according to a report by The Times of Israel. Pilots now have to announce who they are two-and-a-half miles before landing among other unannounced measures.

If the plane flew at low altitudes, it could have escaped radar but greatly decreased their fuel capability, possibly by as much as half. [This was corrected. The original erroneously stated the opposite.]

Another theory is that it shadowed another plane to appear as one blip. It could flown below a Singapore plane through India with the transponders off to avoid detection.

Another point that was made is that radar is turned off at night in some countries. Indian officials gave conflicting comments Monday about whether radar systems on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands were operational at the time that Flight 370 may have passed.

The Malaysian government said the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or ACARS, was switched off before the last verbal communication with whomever was flying the plane at 1:19 a.m. They later revised that and said the conversation between air traffic controllers and the cockpit took place 1:07 and 1:37 a.m.

The last response by the co-pilot Fariq Hamid was “All right, good night.” It might have come after the systems were shut down, making it apparent that he was involved in the hijacking.

The Pakistani government says they have no record of it entering its airspace and are one of the 25 countries helping in the search. Pakistan also harbored bin Laden for ten years.

A Boeing 777 requires a lengthy, 7,500-foot runway, and Pakistan has many of them, meaning Flight 370 could conceivably be hidden in a hangar inside the country . . . U.S. surveillance of the area may be able to shed light on the theory through satellite imagery or signals intelligence, according to LIGNET.

On Saturday, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said that investigators had reliable information that someone on the plane had “deliberately disabled” communications systems before the plane vanished. Furthermore, investigators said that it would have taken someone with pilot training to be able to switch off the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or ACARS. This system automatically sends engine data and other information to the airline.

Since authorities know little, they have to investigate every theory. Another day, another theory.

Update: Noon EST: Another theory being reinvestigated is an electrical fire on board. The pilots might have shut down the electronics to contain the fire.  Boeing has not said if there is a wire-bundled fire scenario in which this could happen.

Another theory is that the computer on board was hacked.

Update: 21:00 EST: The latest available information is that the plane already turned when the co-pilot signed off at 1:19 and were well on their way west. It is not known if the co-pilot was under duress. 

Update: 22:30 EST: This stunning interview with the very reputable Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney affirms the plane could be in Pakistan. 

Lt. Gen.McInerney believes the plane landed in Pakistan both from his sources and from his suspicions about Iran and Pakistan being involved. He does not know the fate of the passengers. He said that if the Navy quits their search in the Indian Ocean, they must know something. For the Israelis to beef up their security, they must know something.

He believes the plane could be used to attack US interests, Israel and so one. It could be turned into a weapon of mass destruction.

The Boeing report out of Langley indicates the plane could be in Western Pakistan. They had enough fuel to make the trip. They appeared to have overloaded the fuel on the plane which may be routine, that’s an unknown.

The pilots had communications through satcom and their FM radio [correction AM], VHF, UHF. They didn’t turn off communications, they turned off navigation aids.  The general believes they were listening in on communications and communicating with the target landing base.

The best leaks have come from the US government. He thinks we will know more in the next day or two.

Listen:

Update: 03/19:14: Boeing has come out with a denial, and Lt. General McInerney responded. Meanwhile, Australians have found what could be debris from the plane. It could also be shipping containers. They were spotted by satellite about 1600 miles SW off Australia. That information is on this link.

Update: 10/20/14: Additional comments from experts on this link.

Update: 10/22/14: Currently search crews are looking for objects seen in satellite photos taken of the South China Sea. CNN is still running 24/7 coverage of the missing plane. CNN has discussed the possibility of alien abduction, supernatural intervention, and black holes. They had a psychic on and she said it landed in an area with trees. At this moment, 21:48 EST, they are discussing three ways planes can land in water.

Update: 10/24/14: After the plane took the turn, the deliberately dropped about 12,000 feet in two minutes. That was done deliberately.

Update: 10/24/14: Debris has been found which is believed to be the wreckage. The Malaysian PM has been notified by the UK AAIB and the satellite company that based on new data analysis, the plane crashed into the Southern Indian Ocean and all aboard have perished. More information on this link.

 

Update: 03/25/14: The New Zealand Herald reported that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s world was crumbling, said a long-time associate. He had been facing serious family problems, including separation from his wife and relationship problems with another woman he was seeing.

via The Herald:

The man, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity, said Captain Zaharie was “terribly upset” when his wife told him she was leaving and believed he may have decided to take the Malaysia Airlines plane to a part of the world he had never flown in.

He guessed that Captain Zaharie may have considered the flight a “last joyride” – the chance to do things in a plane he had previously been able to do only on a simulator.

The friend said Captain Zaharie, who he chatted to when they met several times a year through work, was a fanatic for “the three Fs” – food, family and flying.

When he wasn’t working he spent hours cooking or using his home-made flight simulator for a variety of situations he wouldn’t experience at the controls of a commercial airline, such as flying at the highest and lowest possible altitudes.

The associate believed the co-pilot was incapacitated and the crew kept out.

After the co-pilot signed off, Japanese military radar picked up his voice mumbling and couldn’t make out what he was saying.

The plane climbed to 43,000 feet moments before disappearing from radar and stayed at that altitude for 23 minutes but oxygen would have run out after 12 minutes, rendering passengers and crew unconscious.  He flew as low as 12,000 feet at times.

The plane could have flown until it ran out of fuel. Debris has been found which appears to be from the plane.

A friend of the pilot says Zaharie Shah was devastated over his wife’s decision to move out and never should have been flying.

“This has been a deliberate act by someone on-board who had to have the detailed knowledge to do what was done,” an official source said.

Investigators believe no malfunction or on-board fire was capable of causing the aircraft’s unusual flight or the disabling of its communications system, or of taking it on a seven-hour flight wildly off course.

They also believe the pilot was to blame.

He might have killed 238 people and himself because he was upset.

Debris, possible wreckage, has been found and family are being flown as close to the area as possible.

 

Update:  04/05/14: None of the debris so far as turned out to be wreckage from the plane. However, a Chinese vessel has picked up a ‘pulse signal’ from the South Indian Ocean, according to state media reports. There are planes and a nuclear submarine on the way to the location in the hopes of determining if it is from the missing plane. The ping appears to be from a black box and it is on the same frequency.

via the telegraph

A black box detector deployed by the vessel Haixun 01 picked up the “pings” at around 25 degrees south latitude and 101 degrees east longitude – just north of the designated search area west of Perth.

The signal had a frequency of 37.5kHz per second – the standard for black box flight recorders and one that is chosen because it stands out from other noise.

A reporter with Chinese state broadcaster CCTV, who is onboard the Haixun, said the patrol ship first picked up the signal on Friday when it was detected intermittently for about 15 minutes. But other vessels were in the vicinity at the time, raising the possibility that they might have been the source.

But Haixun, China’s largest patrol vessel, picked up the signal again on Saturday, when it was detected every second for 90 seconds. Update: 04/11/14: The pings that have been coming in for several days are almost definitely from MH370 according to UK officials. There are several countries trying to find the wreckage which is believed to be buried 15000 feet in the South India Sea.

Update: 04/11/14: The pings that have been coming in for several days are almost definitely from MH370 according to UK officials. There are several countries trying to find the wreckage which is believed to be buried 15000 feet in the South India Sea.

 

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  47 comments for “Boeing Believes Flight MH370 Is In Taliban Territory in Pakistan – Updates

  1. RogueRat
    March 18, 2014 at 10:58 am

    Meanwhile, in other news, my neighbors cat has disappeared. Film at 11:00P.

    • Trober
      March 22, 2014 at 5:16 pm

      The cat faked its disappearance to avoid being detected at a later date when the birds in the backyard think its gone.

  2. creeper
    March 18, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    “If the plane flew at low altitudes, it could have escaped radar and greatly increased their fuel capability though that might have been beyond the plane’s capabilities. Fuel consumption could be as much as halved.”

    You might want to double-check this.

  3. Sua Sponte
    Sua Sponte
    March 18, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    I lasted about five minutes following this when it first started…The regime is happy because now the MSM is spending all its time covering this since nothing else important is going on…

  4. gatman7
    gatman7
    March 18, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    An experienced commercial pilot called into Rush Limbaugh’s program today in regard to this. He said that U.S. carriers have been hiring foreign nationals, including Muslims, as pilots on commercial airliners for about 20 years. According to the caller, little or no checking is being done into their background for political or terrorist connections.

    The caller recommended that only U.S. citizens be allowed to pilot for U.S. carriers. (How about crew and ground crew as well.)

    • Trober
      March 22, 2014 at 5:18 pm

      I’m sure our Progressive fellow citizens will cry “foul” about that. Then, turn it into, somehow, anything BUT a white, male Christian can pilot a plane for a U.S. carrier.

      • gatman7
        gatman7
        March 23, 2014 at 1:19 am

        How about reserving Muslim-piloted aircraft exclusively for progressive customers. I’m sure they’ll all jump at the chance to show solidarity with their Muslim brothers and sisters.

        It’s the fair thing to do.

      • Lauren
        April 25, 2014 at 1:53 am

        My dad was a 777 captain with an American carrier. Yes, he was white and male. He was also an outspoken atheist.

  5. Sua Sponte
    Sua Sponte
    March 18, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    Absolutely…We’ve seen the issues with TSA…

  6. Corp970Schultz
    March 19, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Smart cat flying under Radar!

  7. dean
    March 19, 2014 at 11:38 am

    You use a hannity clip? They blame global warming on a muslim too!

  8. rexmantoo
    March 19, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Good work Sara !
    But, to get to Western Paki regions, a refueling would of been needed … since Malaysian Air says it didn’t get extra fuel at Kala Lampur.
    What are best guesses on refueling site … since the Maldives areas runways would not be c/w a route up via Nepal. If refueled in Maldives, then a route north, up via Arabian Gulf, into Western Paki, via south… would of been the way to travel there.
    Also, have we ruled out Somalia as a landing location ?

  9. James Mapston
    March 19, 2014 at 11:46 am

    They (FOX) truly take us for idiots. Read People:
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/new-autopilot-will-make-another-911-impossible-7239651.html
    No Jetliner can be hijacked and this buffoon KNOWS it. Turn OFF the TV!!!

  10. Russh53
    March 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    I almost pissed myself…lol

  11. Russh53
    March 19, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    At your remark about the missing cat.

  12. MongoConfused
    March 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    I didn’t know the Taliban operated airstrips capable of handling Boeing airliners. I suppose we are to believe the plane landed in the mountains of Waziristan, and is being refueled by donkey caravans. I heard the Taliban flew their heroin out on U.S. military aircraft, as in the Vietnam war. Boeing is part of U.S. Inc., and would report whatever they were asked to. My guess is the plane was commandeered by remote control and landed on Diego Garcia, the U.S. forward military base, or in the Maldives where witnesses reported seeing it flying low. It is probably to be used in a false flag attack to be blamed on Iran, after disappearing the scientists on board (who had developed electronic masking tech for aircraft).

  13. Maj. Kong
    March 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Sara, as a retired 777Captain and now a professional web surfer. I have to laugh at all the theories and so called experts on the MSM who are throwing crap against the walls to see what will stick. This article you posted is probably the closest to what truly happened. Check out the two English speaking papers from Pakistan over the weekend. What should be blatantly obvious is the lack of coverage on the aircraft. The only papers in South Asia not to report on it.
    Speaks volumes!

  14. Kevin
    March 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    It might be revealing to see what is listed on the cargo manifest, and to also perhaps delve into the backgrounds of the passengers.

  15. ClintonsBaby
    March 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    James.. cute article.. gun in a plane?! lol.. what happens if the plane isn’t ‘high jacked’? What about the pilots flying it on their own, no need to use this cereal box-made autopilot? It wasn’t a ‘high jacking’ Inspector Gadget.. If the pilots wanted to fly it to Pak, who the heck would activate the auto-pilot, Mr.T maybe or Van Damme?

  16. Maj. Kong
    March 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Kevin……BINGO!
    What was on the cargo manifest is the key to where that aircraft is!

    • Trober
      March 22, 2014 at 5:19 pm

      Or, just the plane itself is sufficient reason to take it.

  17. Maj. Kong
    March 19, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Unfortunately Malaysian Airlines did not buy the engine monitoring (system monitoring) software.
    Where I worked our company could see everything that was happening on the airplane. Many times I was SELCAL’ed in the middle of the night over BF Russia or India to ask us questions about some system and what was going on with it.
    You cannot disable the system from the pit.
    BTW…the entry hatch to the E and E compartment is outside of the cockpit just forward of door L1.

  18. Numb3rTech
    March 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    That article is dated in 2007. The plane missing was built in 2002. Whether the airline had that upgrade or not has not been announced.
    The build date and serial number of the plane are listed on Wiki.
    Here is the link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#Aircraft

    It is possible this one was hijacked!

  19. creeper
    March 19, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    A couple of thoughts…

    First, the plane is reported to have made a brief climb to 45,000 feet. Could that climb have been made to facilitate radio contact with what General McInerney refers to as the “target landing base”?

    Second, why was the Kidd ordered to stand down two days ago?

    Third, the aircraft “disappeared” from radar at precisely the moment it was handed off from Malaysian ATC to Ho Chi Minh City. That allowed it to go for almost an hour before anyone realized it was missing.

    Fourth, what was the precise fuel load? Malaysian authorities have still not said.

    Fifth, what was on the cargo manifest that took precedence over stand-by passengers who were left behind despite fifty empty seats?

    Sixth, could the jog in flight path early on have been designed to kill time waiting for Singapore Flight 68 to arrive in the area so that it could be shadowed into Pakistan?

    Last, at least for now, why is more attention not being paid to the co-pilot, who had a demonstrated history of skirting the rules?

    • March 22, 2014 at 3:56 am

      Have seen several ask why no ransom/demands for passengers and 777 if scenario to use for further targeting. Most likely their utility as a “shield’ in that whatever the target would have to take out the 777 and all its passengers from multiple countries, esp. China at approx. 150.

  20. JerryK
    March 19, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    I hope it is not in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgystan or Kazakhstan. The Taliban would probably now be refueling and loading the cargo hold with one of those missing Soviet nuclear devices or maybe one from NK/Iran. Now, if the flight crew behaves as a jihadist Uyghur, would the next destination be Beijing or as a Muslim, is it Tel-Aviv?

    Pray they ditched near Deigo Garcia and they are activists trying to publicize the plight of the Chagos islanders.

  21. sam
    March 20, 2014 at 6:26 am

    Plane definitely flown to Diego Garcia refuel and went to Israel for false flag operation to start WW3.

  22. John
    March 20, 2014 at 6:55 am

    Another correction for you. The VHF and UHF communications onboard ALL aircraft is NOT FM (frequency modulation) but AM (amplitude modulation) a small point but it needs to be made….

  23. Arnold S.
    March 20, 2014 at 10:43 am

    WHERE is Boeings public statement on their planes whereabouts and why its highly improbable that the systems could be turned off and bypassing the Boeing Interruptible Auto Pilot which cannot be done in the plane but is susceptible to remote control by the military, and if it IS in Pakistan or other country, it “escaped” DETECTION because whoever did it wanted it that way and was done DELIBERATELY.

  24. Tony
    March 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Its those pesky Taliban again! I thought they were ‘smoked out of their holes’ under Dubya? No matter, hopefully they will convert it to a crop duster and get rid of all that opium that has surged in production under the ‘Coalition of the willing’. Not that Im against drugs – every adult should be free to choose – but I do love it when the hypocritical and deceptive powers get railroaded and are forced to eat the crap they have dished to out to others.

    • Sua Sponte
      Sua Sponte
      March 21, 2014 at 12:26 pm

      “Not that Im against drugs”……..Quite apparent.

  25. dave burroughs
    March 20, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    Headline: BOEING BELIEVES…
    Sentence 2: Boeing has not commented.

    What is wrong with this kind of journalism?(!) Innuendo, speculation, “inside” sources. Let’s wait to find out what is really going, lets wait for facts and real science. Please.

  26. Rabbitnexus
    March 20, 2014 at 11:21 pm

    It is absolutely not Iran nor is it likely to be the Taliban. Iran doesn’t do plane hijackings, that is just the hysteria coming from the Zionists (whose own involvment in false flag terrorism is legend) and in both cases the target is way off. Obviously they wouldn’t choose a Malaysian plane nor one with lots of Chinese onboard. You’d have to want to believe such tripe and be struggling to ignore the obvious to buy that. Just ask who gains and not only is it the ones pretending to be most concerned and pointing fingers it also happens to be the ones best equipped to have done this.

    By the way, are people so witless these days that they don’t realise that the USA has got the means to know where anything as large as that jet is at any time, and they also have the capability to know that retrospectively. That could be assumed just from the number of satellites we know about and we know about very few of the military and intelligence gathering ones. If the US apparatus is not telling us where it is, then it’s because they don’t want to tell us and no doubt they have or are getting some sort of a hoax into place is my bet. This doesn’t rule out the real masters of US foreign policy in the Middle East whose history of standing innocently by whilst one of their chosen enemies supposedly launches a terrorist attack against some state which has recently displeased them. Now what has Malaysia done or China lately to displease the Chosen Ones? A Kuala Lumpur War Crimes tribunal is one clue and China’s ‘recalcitrance’ on matters Syrian and Ukrainian might be others.

    • Sua Sponte
      Sua Sponte
      March 21, 2014 at 12:27 pm

      Psst, your anti-Semitism is showing..

  27. Rabbitnexus
    March 20, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    We share that guess.

  28. farang
    March 21, 2014 at 3:42 am

    Wow, “Israel may be targeted” (the world should be so lucky, Fox News bimbos flashing boobs, smiles and hysterical warnings: what more could an ignoramus American crave???

    “I’ll swallow it hook, line and sinker!”

  29. Maquinna
    March 21, 2014 at 5:07 am

    so, that gives us not news but “gossip” which in essence says it all about Amerika… its all made up and Truth is nowhere to be seen… The plane is in a hangar on Diego Garcia. The security system at these major Int’l airports is run by Israel as are the security systems at ALL nuclear plants in Japan and elsewhere. Just have a look at what is going on in the world….. the u..s. and isarael and the uk are bheind all the terrorism world wide… the u.s. has radr all over the Indian Ocean… nothing gets by it… that’s why this hasn’t been reported… they (the u.s.) did it!

    Wake up and get a job… Sara…. sad waste… political correctness = suicide

    • Sua Sponte
      Sua Sponte
      March 21, 2014 at 12:23 pm

      Sounds like you have something that could easily be fixed with Prozac and a polo mallet…You nutters can’t even have a decent conversation without ad hominom attacks and visions of grandeur “the Jews did it!!!”….There’s the door, please take your tin-foil hat with you…Buh bye..

  30. shahid
    March 21, 2014 at 10:08 am

    and more; actually per this idiot general, this plane passed thru hisAss to go there and not thru India or China; and no satellite tracked it; specially the US satellites; or were they, US spy agencies in on it to get this plane vanishining done;

    • Sua Sponte
      Sua Sponte
      March 21, 2014 at 12:28 pm

      English and grammar much?

  31. Seymoar Buttes
    March 22, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    ‘member those tales about how only 144,000 would be saved???
    – they were wrong. It was only 239 and those 239 got in :(

  32. Phillip Smithq
    April 4, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    How does it feel to let faux news lead you through life scared and stupid people ? My god get a grip

  33. Mea
    April 5, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Not ONE piece of evidence.

    Will the conspiracy theories EVER stop? Is real life so boring that people have to make this stuff up? How about those that need to believe it? Does no one care about PROOF anymore? No?

    Well then, I have the plane. It’s parked in my backyard. It was tough landing it but it’s secretly really a jump jet…so…a little noisy, but landed fine…crushed my tomato plants, but otherwise, no biggie. Tell your friends. Pretend you know something secret so you can feel special.

  34. Ralph l. Brown
    April 6, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Does anyone remember the James Bond movie where the yacht had hidden jet engines and took off at a high rate of speed. What if the people in Pakistan dismantle the 777 and secretly install the parts onto the full size aircraft carrier that Iran clams is to be used to make a movie. Under the gize of making a movie they could move close to a given target, unveil the engines. They could possible get at least 300mph or more. Everyone is on alert for a strange aircraft now and would not suspect the carrier because it was making a movie. Just a thought. If anyone has connections you might this one on.

  35. Sua Sponte
    Sua Sponte
    March 21, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    It’s a mental disorder…The Jews and Jewish nation have had a target on their backs for how long now?…There is no difference between the nutters and the libs of this country…I don’t think I’d want them saying much to me face to face, probably get Cheetos sprayed all over you while they’re ranting…They’re just drive by types….If they truly wanted discussion they wouldn’t just post and never return..

  36. Sua Sponte
    Sua Sponte
    March 21, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    It’s hilarious that they get this bent out of shape over a plane, albeit is something to be concerned with, but with everything else going on in the world, this, this is what they choose to have a mental breakdown over…

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